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    Am open to correction, but aiui, UEFA's North/South pitch alignment policy is a preference, not a mandate. And it's to avoid the sun being in the eyes of spectators in the early-mid afternoon. But I'm pretty sure no stadium has ever been refused its due validation solely because the pitch is facing the "wrong" way.

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    I'm surprised this question is still being asked as I thought I'd seen the answer on these forums before. Possibly it was somewhere else, so I'm open to correction on this;

    I understood the reason for the pitch rotation was because modern Health & Safety rules determined that the existing pathways to the Jodi and Connaught St stands were too small to accommodate 3k+ fans. That was also the reason why they can't just upgrade the Jodi and put a new similar sized stand in Connaught Street.

    Any Bohs fans in the know able to confirm this? Or Nesta, our resident expert on stadium standards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    That's crazy. The northside of Dublin should have at least one Cat 4 stadium. Especially as it's publicly-owned. Would then work in Europe for not just Bohs, but also Shels, Drogheda, Dundalk.
    It does!! It's called Croke Park!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redarmyfaction View Post
    Do ye still own part of the Tramway end?
    This is a great question and might offer another explanation for the rotation.

    I looked into this myself and the old owner of the Phibs Shopping Centre won a court case on the ownership, then had it repossessed by NAMA. Last I heard NAMA sold the Shopping centre to Twinlite, a property company. i couldn't determine if that included the Tramway End though (another slap in the face to the tax payer if it did but this would be consistent with past behaviour!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Do German sides not have safe standing that converts into seating for Euro games?

    And Celtic too I think?
    Yes. And UEFA sanctioned them for a 'test' a few years ago, and all seemed to go well from their POV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfman View Post
    I'm surprised this question is still being asked as I thought I'd seen the answer on these forums before. Possibly it was somewhere else, so I'm open to correction on this;

    I understood the reason for the pitch rotation was because modern Health & Safety rules determined that the existing pathways to the Jodi and Connaught St stands were too small to accommodate 3k+ fans. That was also the reason why they can't just upgrade the Jodi and put a new similar sized stand in Connaught Street.

    Any Bohs fans in the know able to confirm this? Or Nesta, our resident expert on stadium standards!
    Why stuff cant or isnt done was my forté, pishing on gah club plans was a personal hobby. Ive not actually seen the Dalymount plans bar visual renditions. Just from knowing the area i dont see unworkable contingencies keeping Dalymount footprint as it is with modifications that could keep DFB et al happy. Turning the pitch only makes sense in trying to minimise the footprint. Lookig at who Bohs have sold tracts of land to might be interesting. The shopping centre end has a lot of space, sold 10 times to 5 differnt people complicates thiings a bit...

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    I hope the Bohs aren't pricing themselves out of a stadium!

    Look at what Shels are doing at Tolka, there are adding improvements upgrading where necessary for regulation. I thin k Bohs has cleaned up well and any future upgrades will be done as needed.

    Why Bohs can't just upgrade the Jodi, add a new similar stand opposite, new covered terracing on the Des Kelly end and something similar on the tramway end. Keep Dalymount looking like a smaller football ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Why stuff cant or isnt done was my forté, pishing on gah club plans was a personal hobby. Ive not actually seen the Dalymount plans bar visual renditions. Just from knowing the area i dont see unworkable contingencies keeping Dalymount footprint as it is with modifications that could keep DFB et al happy. Turning the pitch only makes sense in trying to minimise the footprint. Lookig at who Bohs have sold tracts of land to might be interesting. The shopping centre end has a lot of space, sold 10 times to 5 differnt people complicates thiings a bit...
    With all the public funding bohs are getting here, it's a real surprise the GAA haven't waded in to stake a claim on Dalymount. Still time for it hopefully.
    22 leagues and 26 cups and....well....none of you will ever catch up if we're being honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    I hope the Bohs aren't pricing themselves out of a stadium!

    Look at what Shels are doing at Tolka, there are adding improvements upgrading where necessary for regulation. I thin k Bohs has cleaned up well and any future upgrades will be done as needed.

    Why Bohs can't just upgrade the Jodi, add a new similar stand opposite, new covered terracing on the Des Kelly end and something similar on the tramway end. Keep Dalymount looking like a smaller football ground.
    I totally agree with you on this. It could be completed in stages, without the need for Bohs to vacate the ground, for far less than 64 million euros and would provide a circa 10,000 capacity stadium. It may not be CAT 4, but so what the

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkicker View Post
    I totally agree with you on this. It could be completed in stages, without the need for Bohs to vacate the ground, for far less than 64 million euros and would provide a circa 10,000 capacity stadium. It may not be CAT 4, but so what the
    But so what the new stadium won't be CAT 4 either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkicker View Post
    I totally agree with you on this. It could be completed in stages, without the need for Bohs to vacate the ground, for far less than 64 million euros and would provide a circa 10,000 capacity stadium. It may not be CAT 4, but so what the
    It's probably buried in this thread but.....why isn't that the plan? Dalymount is a special place. For bohs, for Ireland, for Rovers....I'm going to miss it tbh. The Jodi doesn't even look to be in that bad a shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Yes. And UEFA sanctioned them for a 'test' a few years ago, and all seemed to go well from their POV.
    Not just Germany, but the trial also covered France and England. And following a satisfactory trial, SS has now been permitted in those countries since 2022/23:
    https://thefsa.org.uk/news/uefa-appr...uropean-games/

    I don't know whether it has been extended elsewhere (suspect it has - Scotland perhaps?), but it's likely that UEFA need to be persuaded that SS is properly regulated by the relevant authorities in those countries.
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    The first SS trialled in Germany wasnt good at all!
    Last edited by Nesta99; 07/11/2025 at 6:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    There first SS trialled in Germany wasnt good at all!
    Not very safe either. Though they put on some impressive displays

    Maybe that's where the idea of 'ultras' wearing black originated from.

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    https://finnharps.ie/stadium-plannin...g_JvT6FOcN4GNQ

    The latest update from Finn Park 2, for Nesta to pick at!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    https://finnharps.ie/stadium-plannin...g_JvT6FOcN4GNQ

    The latest update from Finn Park 2, for Nesta to pick at!
    All sounds very positive, genuinely hoping everything remains that way and Harps get promoted so we can all (well maybe not everyone, just Pats fans actually ) have some enjoyable away trips up to what will hopefully be a great stadium
    Paaatrick's Agletic

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    https://finnharps.ie/stadium-plannin...g_JvT6FOcN4GNQ

    The latest update from Finn Park 2, for Nesta to pick at!
    Nice to see the plans progressing. The key word in the description is Modular. They can get it built and expand it if required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    https://finnharps.ie/stadium-plannin...g_JvT6FOcN4GNQ

    The latest update from Finn Park 2, for Nesta to pick at!
    There's nothin to pick apart now, but why has it taken 20 something years to meet requirements*. They change and mods are needed but not a full redraw. Id hope that actually passing planning is a formality now, followed by funding and then commencement. The issues that hae cause previous delays have to have been a fudged effort. Theres a book in it for someone Mr A.

    *Natura Impact, road layout, active travel, lighting, emergency vehicle access, storm drainage, and flood mitigation required multiple specialist reports from accredited consultants. All reports have now been submitted and confirm that the new design is compliant with current planning, environmental, and safety regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    There's nothin to pick apart now, but why has it taken 20 something years to meet requirements*. They change and mods are needed but not a full redraw. Id hope that actually passing planning is a formality now, followed by funding and then commencement. The issues that hae cause previous delays have to have been a fudged effort. Theres a book in it for someone Mr A.

    *Natura Impact, road layout, active travel, lighting, emergency vehicle access, storm drainage, and flood mitigation required multiple specialist reports from accredited consultants. All reports have now been submitted and confirm that the new design is compliant with current planning, environmental, and safety regulations.
    More the running out of matching funds had more to do with it

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    Galway Uniteds planning application refused for a training Center in Athenry
    Is annoying with clubs trying to build facilities to improve clubs training options been constantly caught up in red tape in this country

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