If that’s true it’s absolute insanity,64 million and you can’t host group games,you’d despair….Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
If that’s true it’s absolute insanity,64 million and you can’t host group games,you’d despair….
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I'm guessing that's due to something like not enough car parking spaces ?
It surely has to be something space related or how the hell else couldn't they achieve that for the money involved ?
Minimum 8,000 seats which Dalymount won't have. Possibly lacking some other features but capacity is a major missed opportunity either way. Going back to the drawing board probably isn't a feasible option either given how far down the road they are with planning and funding approval. I wonder if they've considered increasing the sizes of the stands by way of amendment application. Probably not as it would increase the cost further.
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Rte reported that it was partly due to bohs decision to have safe standing instead of seats....can't find the article now. Anyone know if that's true?
It's in this thread, according to this, it was Bohs who ruled out a Cat 4 ground - https://x.com/Irish_Grounds/status/1985449737643073536
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That's crazy. The northside of Dublin should have at least one Cat 4 stadium. Especially as it's publicly-owned. Would then work in Europe for not just Bohs, but also Shels, Drogheda, Dundalk.
That's....something else. Suppose it will still be fine for their European friendlies.
Jokes aside, I totally get the attraction of safe standing and wish we had it in Tallaght, but to sacrifice playing big European ties at home for it seems a bit ridiculous. Surprised the council agreed to let them make any decisions on those lines tbh.
Do German sides not have safe standing that converts into seating for Euro games?
And Celtic too I think?
There’s talk of introducing safe standing in the South Stand. No idea of timelines though.
Smaller associations really should be at UEFA looking for dispensation for Cat 3 stadia for the majority of games. Ok if you end up playing Arsenal like Dundalk did then move to the Aviva Cat 4 standard. But if playing say Breidablik in group stages than Cat 3 should suffice as long as there are minimums like VAR. There is no need for media areas for 10000 journos, or 10000 VIP freebie tickets. Maybe there could be a time limit aspect to dispensation to get things up to Cat 4 but many criteria are not needed - would Dundalk need a 8k minimum capacity stadium to be able to play European games at home with an average gate of 3k domestically? In an era of significant inflation, talk of carbon neutral development etc well building significantly more than what is needed hardly fits these objectives. I know Bohs could probably do with more than 6k, but integrating what exists, refurbish the Jodi Stand, new stand the opposite side and convertable terracing behind one or both goals could be phased starting with the new stand.
There are plenty of stadia in the UK that are bespoke shoehorned in to very tight footprint due to the prefab tech used rather than poured concrete. Vicarage Road is an interesting one for unusual shape site and many groundws are right up against housing - they comply for UEFA games. So maybe a rethink is needed, get a non Iirsh company that isnt on the gravy train in. €65M+ is just mad even in todays climate and stinks of gouging public money.
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I don't think there was an option of 8k+ seating vs 8K+ seating and standing. It was more or less 6k seating between the 2 pitchside stands plus whatever you can squeeze in behind the goals. Terracing makes more sense in that case because you can squeeze more in. The areas behind the goal look odd as they are in the plan anyway, they'd look even odder trying to get seats in I think. I do wonder if they had put raised stands in the design could they have fit more in and still kept the pathway, with the pathway being more underneath the stand as opposed to behind it. Also feels like a fair bit of the design of the pitchside stands is done a certain way to avoid objections (stand height, gradient and light). I wouldn't know enough about costs but comparing cost to greenfield site is inaccurate/irrelevant unless suggesting scraping Dalymount altogether and developing on a greenfield site - which is a fair enough opinion but not the side I'd generally fall on.
My understanding is that Cat4 was ruled out long, long ago due to the additional facilities required, not seating capacity alone. That twitter post looks more like it relates to a misunderstanding/misuse of the term "Cat4" vs "all seater", perhaps accurately reporting what was said at the meeting. I didn't watch the meeting personally.
That's fair enough. I've read a lot of stuff about this plan that I would be taking with a large pinch of salt. That the pitch was rotated because UEFA prefer north/south aspects for pitches being one. Saw that on Twitter. Could be true, seems insane.
I just hope it actually gets done at this point. I'd have no problem enjoying bohs being homeless for a while but we need you in a proper ground. There can be no light without the dark after all, and it's a bonus that you can't say much about our council owned stadium anymore.
22 leagues and 25 cups and....well....none of you will ever catch up if we're being honest.
According to Derry club officials, there seems to be a realisation about this. Heard it was expected to be brought in for this season, but no word.
The changes would also allow safe standing to all clubs.
With smaller clubs more regularly qualifying for league competition, it just makes sense.
Heard the council are adding the corners in too. Will be nice and cozy.
22 leagues and 25 cups and....well....none of you will ever catch up if we're being honest.
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