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    Quote Originally Posted by listowelceltic View Post
    Good news for Shels with the 250 year lease. Have the club any long term plans for developing Tolka?
    Going by the terrace improvements recently on the Riverside Stand side & the Ballybough end, is the best you could hope for in the short term. Maybe the stand at the Drumcondra end could be reviewed for safety standards again with the prospect of being reopened again. The main stand on the Richmond road side could do with a revamp, maybe a new cantilever type stand.

    What are Shels fans thoughts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by listowelceltic View Post
    Good news for Shels with the 250 year lease.
    Is that how long the development is expected to take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Is that how long the development is expected to take?
    It's the LoI. They'll sell the last 200 years of the lease to a developer and their fans will have a "Save Tolka Park" campaign in 2070.
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    Any details on the terms of the lease beyond timeframe. Some of it looked pretty difficult to to attain during negotiations without risking the lease being revoked and any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by listowelceltic View Post
    Good news for Shels with the 250 year lease. Have the club any long term plans for developing Tolka?
    At least it will give Shels the chance to improve the current state of the Tolka Park facilities to a reasonable level. Just by improving the basic areas around the ground will be important. I think most fans would be happy in the short term seeing this type of initial work being done as a sign of improvement. The plans for more extensive projects that will need planning approval can then be considered, then.

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    Brandywell update:
    Sewerage issues delaying the work on the new terrace nearly sorted with the council/NI Water. The terrace itself is being built off-site.
    Stormont funding for the finishing the Mark Farren stand is due to come next April, pending a successful application. Would be surprised if there isn't money for the Brandywell in there.
    There are also plans for a south stand, that would be at the Showgrounds end. Surprised at that one, as it's quite tight for space, but must be possible.
    No word on what the council have decided on the pitch, but the club are requesting grass or hybrid.

    https://www.derryjournal.com/news/wa...-crane-4640553

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    Brandywell update:
    Sewerage issues delaying the work on the new terrace nearly sorted with the council/NI Water. The terrace itself is being built off-site.
    Stormont funding for the finishing the Mark Farren stand is due to come next April, pending a successful application. Would be surprised if there isn't money for the Brandywell in there.
    There are also plans for a south stand, that would be at the Showgrounds end. Surprised at that one, as it's quite tight for space, but must be possible.
    No word on what the council have decided on the pitch, but the club are requesting grass or hybrid.

    https://www.derryjournal.com/news/wa...-crane-4640553
    Good to hear, it’d be class if it became a four sided ground. Given the space there I’d imagine it could be a small enough terrace, similar to what’s going to be behind at least one of the goals in Dalymount when it’s done up. Even if that is to be the case, optics wise it’s still better than leaving it open the way it is now and it’d add on a few hundred to the capacity at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    Brandywell update:
    Sewerage issues delaying the work on the new terrace nearly sorted with the council/NI Water. The terrace itself is being built off-site.
    Stormont funding for the finishing the Mark Farren stand is due to come next April, pending a successful application. Would be surprised if there isn't money for the Brandywell in there.
    There are also plans for a south stand, that would be at the Showgrounds end. Surprised at that one, as it's quite tight for space, but must be possible.
    No word on what the council have decided on the pitch, but the club are requesting grass or hybrid.

    https://www.derryjournal.com/news/wa...-crane-4640553
    Suppose the stand at the Showgrounds side could always be something similar to the Drumcondra end of Tolka Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Good to hear, it’d be class if it became a four sided ground. Given the space there I’d imagine it could be a small enough terrace, similar to what’s going to be behind at least one of the goals in Dalymount when it’s done up. Even if that is to be the case, optics wise it’s still better than leaving it open the way it is now and it’d add on a few hundred to the capacity at least
    That's the main advantage, IMO. Four sides look so much better on TV. Much better to have smaller stands on all sides, than a couple of large ones and nothing either end.

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    Be interesting to see what clubs would vote for here.

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    Usually these sort of votes have to be unanimous, the 2 clubs that have artificial surfaces out of the top flight and they voted on it. Here there are a couple of turkeys that wont vote for christmas and one at least will still be there next season and for the forseeable. There are enough artificial surfaces over the 2 divisions that itd be unlikely there would even be a vote on it. It would have tp be a UEFA ruling for things to change here imo.

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    Aren't both Derry and dundalk talking about going back to grass anyway ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Aren't both Derry and dundalk talking about going back to grass anyway ??
    Dundalk definitely won't be, can't afford it

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    Can Derry pull rank on the surface in the Brandywell? As long as Institute are also based there there isnt a window to lay a grass surface. Be fun to see them both looking Maginn for a spell, or at least how Institute would probably not be allowed even if they wanted or needed to find temporary temporary home, 2 clubs same city and ground different countrys' leagues one could use a neighbouring ground and another couldnt without a whole bunch of hoops to jump through, or maybe precedences set....or just wait until the Clooney Park development is done before ripping up the Brandywell surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    It's the LoI. They'll sell the last 200 years of the lease to a developer and their fans will have a "Save Tolka Park" campaign in 2070.
    It would only be textbook LOI behaviour if they sold it twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Can Derry pull rank on the surface in the Brandywell? As long as Institute are also based there there isnt a window to lay a grass surface. Be fun to see them both looking Maginn for a spell, or at least how Institute would probably not be allowed even if they wanted or needed to find temporary temporary home, 2 clubs same city and ground different countrys' leagues one could use a neighbouring ground and another couldnt without a whole bunch of hoops to jump through, or maybe precedences set....or just wait until the Clooney Park development is done before ripping up the Brandywell surface.
    There would also be 'neighbouring' grounds for Institute in the other direction e.g. Limavady United.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Can Derry pull rank on the surface in the Brandywell? As long as Institute are also based there there isnt a window to lay a grass surface.
    I think that's exactly what's going to happen, but the Council will be looking for the club, i.e. Philip O'Doherty, to contribute to putting in a hybrid pitch.
    Stute fixtures could be reserved for a while, or they could play in Limavady.

    I wonder will the FAI ban plastic pitches, maybe starting with the Premier? If it was the case that Dundalk got relegated, and the Brandywell was switching, it would be easy enough to implement, like the Scots have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    It would only be textbook LOI behaviour if they sold it twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Dundalk definitely won't be, can't afford it
    Much that I would prefer grass, club have so many teams, youth, womens etc, all using main pitch. Not sure how other clubs manage their other teams as can't imagine they use the senior pitch, but that was a major factor.

    On the can't afford it, will cost under 1m to replace current to new version 4g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Much that I would prefer grass, club have so many teams, youth, womens etc, all using main pitch. Not sure how other clubs manage their other teams as can't imagine they use the senior pitch, but that was a major factor.

    On the can't afford it, will cost under 1m to replace current to new version 4g.
    Shiuld have been clearer by afford I was referencing to the maintance costs that would come with maintaining a pitch that would have so many games on it, we'd all love grass but Dundalk's lack of a second pitch is a killer.
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