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    Interesting to see the seat colour pattern looks like being something nice, rather than the abominations on the other three stands.

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    Looks great though it does look short on both sides ... as in it could stretch a little more wider.

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    The should keep that hoarding in place.....

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    Brandywell planning application going to committee next week, with approval recommended. It'll obviously pass, despite a few objections. Wasn't in favour of planning being devolved to councils, as councillors tend not to be the brightest and are more easily corruptible, but one positive is that none of them would dare vote against something like this.
    Construction due to start in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Interesting to see the seat colour pattern looks like being something nice, rather than the abominations on the other three stands.
    Saw Marc Lynch tweeting to say that when the current seats needs replacing they'll be changed to all green as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    Brandywell planning application going to committee next week, with approval recommended. It'll obviously pass, despite a few objections. Wasn't in favour of planning being devolved to councils, as councillors tend not to be the brightest and are more easily corruptible, but one positive is that none of them would dare vote against something like this.
    Construction due to start in November.
    New Terrace, right? What is the expected capacity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Saw Marc Lynch tweeting to say that when the current seats needs replacing they'll be changed to all green as well.
    This makes sense if the other seats will be replaced soon, but I doubt that’s the case as they’re in grand condition. Could be another 10-15 years before they need replacing… the south stand has only been open a couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    New Terrace, right? What is the expected capacity?
    Rail seating, capacity just shy of 3000 although we will lose maybe 400 from blocks a+b of southend park stand to accomodate so should be approx 2500 increase on capacity, job went out to tender last week that should be wrapped up quickly and as mentioned by someone else as soon as season ends will be ready to get stuck in.

    Unfortunately we aren’t getting a grass pitch it will be a new, upgraded synthetic pitch which is a great shame so until the FAI or UEFA or whoever outright ban the horrible things we will be stuck with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCWA View Post
    Rail seating, capacity just shy of 3000 although we will lose maybe 400 from blocks a+b of southend park stand to accomodate so should be approx 2500 increase on capacity, job went out to tender last week that should be wrapped up quickly and as mentioned by someone else as soon as season ends will be ready to get stuck in.

    Unfortunately we aren’t getting a grass pitch it will be a new, upgraded synthetic pitch which is a great shame so until the FAI or UEFA or whoever outright ban the horrible things we will be stuck with one.
    Hadn't heard it was rail seating. Are there any more in depth documents/info available online than the typical newspaper article? Any I've seen don't have a huge amount of detail.

    Any idea for expected completion date? A (give or take) 3k terrace will be quality if/when you get numbers into it.

    Edit

    Can see the following quote on 42.ie from a Derry director

    "It will be ‘standing-seated.’ Essentially, there will be an additional capacity of 2,500 standing with seats locked back. If they host a European game, the seats fold down.
    The overall cost will come in at over £1 million."

    Sounds great
    Last edited by bohsmug; 02/10/2023 at 12:56 PM.

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    £1mil sounds very reasonable, not a pittance but the sor of money that would make you wonder why all the fuss getting to tender and why other clubs *cough* couldnt have channelled about 10% of a few yrs of European earnings in to some ground improvements a while back. Im presuming the pitch is seperate to the quoted figures for capacity expansion?*
    Last edited by Nesta99; 02/10/2023 at 1:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    £1mil sounds very reasonable, not a pittance but the sor of money that would make you wonder why all the fuss getting to tender and why other clubs *cough* couldnt have channelled about 10% of a few yrs of European earnings in to some ground improvements a while back. Im presuming the pitch is seperate to the quoted figures for capacity expansion?*
    That figure stood out to me too. Given that, AFAIK, many clubs are running at those sort of deficits yearly with money coming in from owners to cut the shortfall. To get a nice, covered stand that will last a long time seems a more than worthy investment. Often surprised that LOI doesn't benefit from philanthropy for that kind of stuff. At our level you can make a big, impactful improvement for relatively little in the grand scheme of things.

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    Re reading that statement "The overall cost will come in at over £1 million" its probably the most accurate statement on a capital project ever!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohsmug View Post
    "It will be ‘standing-seated.’ Essentially, there will be an additional capacity of 2,500 standing with seats locked back. If they host a European game, the seats fold down.
    Presumably Derry are aware that UEFA don't allow rail seating at the moment. They have been 'testing' it at a few grounds in England, France annd Germany last season, annd will make a deciison on it at some point (and presumably be in favour of it everywhere too). But as things stand now, it won't be able to be used for Europe.

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    Feck, deleted my post by accident. Meant to edit. Anyway nothing mind-blowing in it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Presumably Derry are aware that UEFA don't allow rail seating at the moment. They have been 'testing' it at a few grounds in England, France annd Germany last season, annd will make a deciison on it at some point (and presumably be in favour of it everywhere too). But as things stand now, it won't be able to be used for Europe.
    I'm not sure that's correct.
    Currently they permit rail seating which can be secured in the seated position for UEFA competition matches. While the tests which they've been conducting since 2022/23 in Eng/Fra/Ger have been for (terrace) standing:
    "The objective is to assess if and under what conditions standing may be reintroduced in UEFA competitions in a safe manner."
    https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news...-facilities-f/

    This is why eg Borussia Dortmund had to reduce their stadium capacity when playing in UEFA competition (it is 81,365 for Bundesliga games), since Safe Standing in Germany has a 1:1.4 seating to standing ratio. (In England it is 1:1). However the above tests have seen the following:
    "At the start of 2021/22, the UEFA Executive Committee also approved a request from Dortmund to offer fans standing tickets at European games. Capacity had been limited to 66,099 in previous years, but the new safe standing areas mean that BVB can now call on the full might of the Signal Iduna Park and a packed-out Yellow Wall for their continental contests."
    https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundes...llow-wall-5280

    Unless a significant problem arises, it seems likely that standing will return to European club competition, at least for those clubs which can demonstrate Safe Standing facilities installed to the highest modern standards. In which case I'd assume Derry City will be ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    New Terrace, right? What is the expected capacity?
    6,239.
    If the Mark Farren stand is completed, which is expected, it'll be a total of 7,405. Close to the magic number of 8k for some European games, though there are rumours that some requirements will be eased next year.

    It's likely that construction will continue into the start of next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    I'm not sure that's correct.
    Currently they permit rail seating which can be secured in the seated position for UEFA competition matches. While the tests which they've been conducting since 2022/23 in Eng/Fra/Ger have been for (terrace) standing:
    "The objective is to assess if and under what conditions standing may be reintroduced in UEFA competitions in a safe manner."
    https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news...-facilities-f/

    This is why eg Borussia Dortmund had to reduce their stadium capacity when playing in UEFA competition (it is 81,365 for Bundesliga games), since Safe Standing in Germany has a 1:1.4 seating to standing ratio. (In England it is 1:1). However the above tests have seen the following:
    "At the start of 2021/22, the UEFA Executive Committee also approved a request from Dortmund to offer fans standing tickets at European games. Capacity had been limited to 66,099 in previous years, but the new safe standing areas mean that BVB can now call on the full might of the Signal Iduna Park and a packed-out Yellow Wall for their continental contests."
    https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundes...llow-wall-5280

    Unless a significant problem arises, it seems likely that standing will return to European club competition, at least for those clubs which can demonstrate Safe Standing facilities installed to the highest modern standards. In which case I'd assume Derry City will be ok?
    So your point is that you agree with what I said in my connclusion, which was = "...and [UEFA] will make a decision on it at some point (and presumably be in favour of it everywhere too)".

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    So your point is that you agree with what I said in my connclusion, which was = "...and [UEFA] will make a decision on it at some point (and presumably be in favour of it everywhere too)".
    You said that rail seating should soon be allowed. I pointed out that it is already permitted to be used where it [rail seating] is installed and that the Eng/Ger/Fra testing is for standing to be permitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Interesting to see the seat colour pattern looks like being something nice, rather than the abominations on the other three stands.
    They could still add some white and gold seats yet!

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