QuoteLong finger odds would have been good regardless of Trump. A couple of projects and then the rest would have a struggle, even ones started.
What’s the odds that these stadium developments will go on the very long finger if our economy takes a massive hit due to the lunatic in the White House ?
Long finger odds would have been good regardless of Trump. A couple of projects and then the rest would have a struggle, even ones started.
850 seats, not standing, will be available for the new north stand in the Brandywell for Cork on Friday.
That's half the available seats, with capacity to increase following further sign-off.
A knock-on effect of the new stand is that the away allocation is now 450 or so.
Outside Dalyer, I would love to see someone make a case for why itll be done. Maybe Sligo Rovers because they have the capacity to drive their masterplan but for me thats itOriginally Posted by Nesta99
Don't agree at all to be honest. A lot of the grounds don't function well for their current crowds, regardless of whether they need additional capacities. Drogheda, Shels, Pat's, Finn Harps and Dundalk need better facilities for fans even at their current capacities. More too I'm sure, it just requires so little effort to think of grounds that need improvement that I haven't even bothered thinking all that hard. To varying degrees many clubs will argue they have scope for capacity increases but for me there's barely an argument that so many need improvement to the overall facility.
If our economy takes a big hit you can be sure that the issue of improving League Of Ireland stadia will be forgotten about soon enough
Well yeah, obviously. Any of our potential developments are very tentative right until the point it's complete. This thread was started 19 years ago. Bohs aren't playing in a new stadium in Diswellstown, Harristown or new Dalymount, Markets Field isn't an 8k all seater arena, Drogheda aren't in their super arena, Harps new ground got stuck in the same state that Tallaght was in back then. There've been countless plans that date back a huge number of years that don't exist here and now nearly 20 years later. Some things have happened but most haven't. I'm amazed and delighted (despite allegiances) that Tallaght happened and has had 3 phases since that actually have been completed. Whether through public money or private deals, LOI ground improvements have been thin on the ground when compared to need.
I'm talking only about necessity of development, not likelihood. Maybe I've misinterpreted the poster's point.
The vast majority of needs would be covered by single stand developments. I think Tallaght has everyone looking for complete new stadia. In an ideal world yeah for sure but a needs must bargain basics even a Jodi type stand would do most where there is room. If the stand was extended pitch length in Oriel for as old it is it would cover current need and without a 20m price tag (and concrete grass bank so people stop obsessing about it....and get people to put away training goals properly). Sligo's ambition is great but they are first out of the blocks and cant see clubs league wide getting similar funding even at 1 a year. Tallaght and Dalymount being different as local authority led. Drogheda are more likely to have an Athlone style development and a protracted effort to kick on with other phases and others could be more like Finn Harps. Ive yet to see anything that would suggest a cohesive league wide plan to improve things bar licencing or government opening he purse string to allow a catchup with the other sport.
This may be a daft question. But when you're sitting in the rail seats, presumably you have a clear/unobstructed view over the metal rail in front of you?
Is there any update on the Harps stadium? Seems to have gone a bit quiet in that front.
Is the government money in the bag, and it's just up to the club to fundraise for its bit now? Is there a proposed starting date for work?
Will be very interested to see what the official attendance in Galway is on Friday. The club have said they won't be selling tickets at the stadium so you'd assume it's going to be pretty much a sell-out.
I've read that on the GUFC forum that capacity in EDP has been increased to over 5k but I haven't seen this officially announced anywhere. Capacity of EDP was always closer to 6k from what I remember and was reduced to 4.3k when the stadium get assessed my engineers in 2020.
EDP should look great on Friday night.
Shush, dont be asking such difficult questions, depends on who you ask and might still be a secret! Last I heard there was a grant application for an architect to resubmit new plans and the original builder wants the job.........well anythings possible!
The growth in attendances in Galway has been particularly impressive. It wasn't that long ago that crowds there seemed to be in the region of 1,500 on a good day. It's not a big city (86000 at the last census), with competition from both the Gah and the rugby, so to be trebling attendances in a few years is a big leap.
Is there anything specific to the town that's been driving it?
Presume so, unless you're small and sit back maybe.
Most people tend to sit forward and lean over the bar.
I think there is a need right across the league and that there is not one club that couldnt make a reasonable case for more work to be done. Even Rovers could make a reasonable case for filing the corners.
What I would query is, even absent significant financial change, what developments will be delivered in the medium term i.e by 2030 and I come back to Dalyer, maybe the rest of the Mark Farren stand and the Sligo Rovers masterplan. Outside that I would be surprised to see meaningful shift
Fundamentally few seem to be at concept or planning stage much less shovel ready
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Unfortunately you're probably right and if the track record is anything to go by you're even more likely to be right. 2030 is a very short time frame by our standards too. We're all hoping this is different. The league has a momentum I've never seen before but whether that translates to actual ground developments is another question altogether.
On the jodi thing Nesta.. yes but with caveats. You just need to have better dressing rooms and a few other things. I can live with the poles that obstruct the view, even what Bristol Rovers have built recently - although I'm sure there'd be disappointment with that. Athlone's main stand would tick a lot of boxes (maybe all?), especially in a ground that had at least 1 other stand. Most fans want toilets and a roof over their heads. Some want the option for a burger or a coffee. It really isn't much. Players and officials want reasonable dressing rooms and clubs need to have offices somewhere - onsite or in a training ground. Most of us don't want all that much really. Doesn't mean it's going to happen, hopefully it does happen all the same.
It's with planning authorities again. Planning was resubmitted in December and the authorities requested more information in February. It's a list as long as your arm.
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I'm only back in Galway for a few weeks a year so I'm not best placed to answer. But with the post covid bounce for all clubs I don't think you can put it down to any one thing.
I think it being the best GUFC team in a generation is obviously a huge factor. I've also noticed that it feels like there's a lot more students coming to games, which has long since been a massively under-tapped market for us. Probably no coincidence that this surge in students happened in and around the same time the bar in EDP opened up.
What info could the possibly be missing consiering all the different submissions at this stage. Unless info was ommitted in past applcatons?
At this juncture i think even the number of proposed redevelopments by clubs is a handful
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