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    https://www.finnharps.ie/post/finn-h...te-august-2019

    If anyone cares about these updates anymore?

    Athlone Town stadium Part II.

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    Boom is back! Property value of Finn Park must have recovered sufficiently to get the developer rolling again. 24 months from the first half of 2020 seem very long for one proper stand unless there is additional work being done on other sides eg terracing - stil long when stands can go up in 6 weeks these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Boom is back! Property value of Finn Park must have recovered sufficiently to get the developer rolling again. 24 months from the first half of 2020 seem very long for one proper stand unless there is additional work being done on other sides eg terracing - stil long when stands can go up in 6 weeks these days.
    And considering most of the structural work on the main stand is already done.

    Club hope to keep Finn Park now, which would be massive for the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Boom is back! Property value of Finn Park must have recovered sufficiently to get the developer rolling again. 24 months from the first half of 2020 seem very long for one proper stand unless there is additional work being done on other sides eg terracing - stil long when stands can go up in 6 weeks these days.
    Except under this plan Finn Park is retained.

    In any case everything is fecked until the department of Sport are happy with the FAI, and that does not appear to be imminent.

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    Is there some sort of cooling in relationships between SDCC and Shamrock Rovers?

    “Tallaght Stadium is a South Dublin County Council-owned stadium and to provide flags in the colours of Shamrock Rovers would not be in keeping with the promotion of the stadium as a destination for all events throughout the county.”

    http://www.echo.ie/tallaght/article/...great-feedback

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    What's the real advantage of moving if they're only building one stand and want to retain Finn Park? Would something like Sligo Rovers main stand and adding simple terracing behind the grassy end of Finn Park not do a reasonable job? I would worry that you'll end up with Athlone Stadium 2. One great stand that covers all your needs and leaves you with an incomplete looking ground. If they do add terracing it will help with the "incomplete" aspect but that press release is a bit vague. Phase 2 in this country is a rarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohsmug View Post
    What's the real advantage of moving if they're only building one stand and want to retain Finn Park? Would something like Sligo Rovers main stand and adding simple terracing behind the grassy end of Finn Park not do a reasonable job? I would worry that you'll end up with Athlone Stadium 2. One great stand that covers all your needs and leaves you with an incomplete looking ground. If they do add terracing it will help with the "incomplete" aspect but that press release is a bit vague. Phase 2 in this country is a rarity.
    Extra pitches and facilities is definitely a major upside- it's a massive toll on the club finding pitches for the various teams to train and play on, especially when there are 5 or 6 teams playing in the same weekend plus all the various Academy teams.

    I guess a lot depends on how developed those open terraces would be and what effort level would be required to upgrade them to seating or covered terracing.

    TBH.. I love the idea of a big covered terrace on one side of the pitch!

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    From a purely superficial point of view, one behind the goal keeps the fans on camera. I'm possibly guilty of over focusing on that myself. I do think it's good that Harps are not just blindly pursuing the all-seater route for the sake of it. As much as United Park is a kip, I always love the atmosphere in the small covered terrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Is there some sort of cooling in relationships between SDCC and Shamrock Rovers?




    http://www.echo.ie/tallaght/article/...great-feedback
    That's always been the council's view. It's why the seats are a complete eyesore
    Last edited by pineapple stu; 12/08/2019 at 12:04 PM.

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    And because they misunderstood the concept of mixing multiple colours/shades of seats to help make a ground not look so bad with empty seats and have doubled, trebled and with the new stand will quadruple down on the initial misunderstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Extra pitches and facilities is definitely a major upside- it's a massive toll on the club finding pitches for the various teams to train and play on, especially when there are 5 or 6 teams playing in the same weekend plus all the various Academy teams.

    I guess a lot depends on how developed those open terraces would be and what effort level would be required to upgrade them to seating or covered terracing.

    TBH.. I love the idea of a big covered terrace on one side of the pitch!
    Agree! I far prefer to stand at games. Anything that encloses a ground and improves the atmosphere. Tallaght felt souless at times until the additional stand was built so when the 4th stand is built it will be a nice wee cauldron on big match nights.

    Will there be work done on Finn Park itself when Stranrolar opens. I understand the need for additional pitches but it will still eat in to some of the finances to maintain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Tallaght felt souless at times until the additional stand was built
    I agree and actually I'm surprised how much that has lifted the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Agree! I far prefer to stand at games. Anything that encloses a ground and improves the atmosphere. Tallaght felt souless at times until the additional stand was built so when the 4th stand is built it will be a nice wee cauldron on big match nights.

    Will there be work done on Finn Park itself when Stranrolar opens. I understand the need for additional pitches but it will still eat in to some of the finances to maintain.
    I would say that at some stage the stand will have to come down.

    There will be costs involved in maintaining those extra pitches for sure but at the moment we end up paying to rent facilities in any case, and the week to week organization involved is a huge amount of effort that could be better spent elsewhere.

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    Been meaning to ask for a while. Sligo Rovers 2017 - 2021 strategic plan included this in the section about infrastructure improvements:

    1 - Construction of a multi-purpose facility at the Church hill road end to include a large multi use room at ground level which can be used as an indoor function room, bar and gym and incorporating dressing room and showers and fully equipped first aid room to UEFA standards and storage.
    2 - First floor of Church Hill Road facility to be designed to have approximately 200 seats overlooking the pitch with facilities for a TV control room, players lounge and some corporate/sponsored space in balcony seating.
    3 - Museum section and a family section to be incorporated into the first floor space also. Achievement of this project listed under actions 3, 4 and 5 will be dependent on grant financing.
    4 - Ground development plan which will prioritise works to be undertaken taking account of essential works and developments likely to generate revenue. The plan will provide for facilities as indicated in this strategy and will outline indicative funding requirements as well as funding opportunities.


    Is there any word of this now?

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    it was also to do with the amount of very visible Dublin GAH flags around the stadium

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohsmug View Post
    And because they misunderstood the concept of mixing multiple colours/shades of seats to help make a ground not look so bad with empty seats and have doubled, trebled and with the new stand will quadruple down on the initial misunderstanding.
    Not sure if you're being serious here, but that isn't why they have that mess of colours.

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    https://macdaraferris.wordpress.com/...2/take-a-seat/

    Quote Originally Posted by MacDara Ferris
    When asked, the County Architect pointed out correctly that the stadium was now a municipal facility, not a stadium owned by Shamrock Rovers. So this seemed to be a reason not to have a seating arrangement of green and white. It was almost a signal to the people of South Dublin that this was their stadium and, while Shamrock Rovers were a very welcome anchor tenant, it was a stadium not just for one community organisation. Most Rovers fans could understand this viewpoint even if deep down they wanted a green or a white seat to sit in. They probably would have accepted this position quite willingly if it wasn’t for the bizarre arrangement that was unfolding before their eyes like a game of Lego or Tetris unfolding in the real world.

    The Council went on to explain that the reasoning for the arrangement is that it is common in European stadia to have “an assortment of colours across the stand. This reduces the appearance of emptiness on television for events with a small attendance. It also adds visual liveliness when the stadium is not in use.” Having the mixture of seats is indeed a practice seen in a number of stadia around the globe but the arrangement in Tallaght was not the “visual liveliness” most were looking for or had seen elsewhere.
    This is what an assortment of colours across a stand to reduce the appearance of emptiness looks like: alvalade1.jpg

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    That is actually excellent pity they didn't do that in Tallaght.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    That is actually excellent pity they didn't do that in Tallaght.
    The colours they picked lend themselves to doing it perfectly too just they either made a complete mess of it, or more likely reason is that there was just some stubborn gah head councillor that insisted the seats couldn't be rovers colours so this was the compromise and what was said to the press was a cover of that

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    Or the fact that the FAI were trying there best to get Pats into Tallaght with Rovers and put red white and yellow seats in along with the green and white ones?

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