Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

**Charlie Darwin** · 14/09/2016, 2:18 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

If that's the case, and I'm sure it is, given that they'll no longer have any assets once this goes through surely they should just do a Derry/Cork/Galway and start again with a new debt free company?

It would depend on how the club is incorporated and lots of other stuff. Derry, as far as I know, was transferred to another company before the company that owned the club went into liquidation so it wasn't subject to a wind-up order from the courts, but Cork City and Shamrock Rovers had to be given permission to write down debts by the courts. Galway had to set up an entirely new club. I don't know what Shelbourne's precise situation would be.

**Dodge** · 14/09/2016, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

If that's the case, and I'm sure it is, given that they'll no longer have any assets once this goes through surely they should just do a Derry/Cork/Galway and start again with a new debt free company?

They don't have any assets now. So they're not losing much

**sbgawa** · 14/09/2016, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

If that's the case, and I'm sure it is, given that they'll no longer have any assets once this goes through surely they should just do a Derry/Cork/Galway and start again with a new debt free company?

They are probably just waiting until the move to Dalymount as the right time to have a Shelbourne 2018 etc reincarnation.
No point in forming a new company now and struggling along until the move.
If they did it now the chances are the "new" club would be insolvent again by the time the stadium opens (based on current crowds)

**nigel-harps1954** · 14/09/2016, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by pateen

Whats the actual story with Finn Harps new ground. No money, planning issues, club in fighting .... all the above + more?

Nobody really knows the exact story. A lot of people don't believe it'll ever be finished.

Was down there recently though and it's not a pretty sight at the minute.

**ger121** · 14/09/2016, 7:35 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Nobody really knows the exact story. A lot of people don't believe it'll ever be finished.

Was down there recently though and it's not a pretty sight at the minute.

Another Irish Football story of broken dreams....

**Nesta99** · 14/09/2016, 7:58 PM

I know there are many theories on the delays with Harps new grount but it is simply a swap of land for the build but the land is now worth damn all now in relative terms. The builder isnt going to make killing turning Finn Park in to flats so just doesnt fancy holding up his side of the 'bargain'. Harps probably cant or dont want to push the legal route assuming there was a contract signed in hope that it will be resolved. Sounds like Harps (and the rest of us) need Councils for a dig out to to finish things off.

**Dalymountrower** · 15/09/2016, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by Philosophizer

I think they'll have more chance of attracting new fans at a shiny new Dalyer than they would in the crumbling ruin that is Tolka.
More of their fans would come from Drumcondra these days rather than Ringsend, and Shels would certainly be the main LOI team around Tolka park, as you'd expect.

Not too many Shels fans in Drumcondra. East Wall/ North Strand/ Ballybough and Dublin North East Suburbs is where the younger fans seem to be from ,given the direction they leave Tolka.

**legendz** · 22/09/2016, 4:19 PM

Are more developments in line for the Markets Field? AFAIK there was going to be improvements in phases.

**ger121** · 22/09/2016, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

Are more developments in line for the Markets Field? AFAIK there was going to be improvements in phases.

Don't mention ze war!

**JDsJocks** · 22/09/2016, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by legendz

Are more developments in line for the Markets Field? AFAIK there was going to be improvements in phases.

It would be nice to see a stand on the popular side. And a decent modern one like Tallaght.

**RathfarnhamHoop** · 24/09/2016, 5:28 PM

New dugouts seem to be being built in Tallaght. Looked as if they were getting rid of the plastic things and putting a new uncovered seat style bench slightly indented into the stand like a simpler Stamford bridge type thing but they could easily have just been pushing the existing plastic benches back into the stand a bit. Wonder if its something to do with UEFA criteria. They've also added two temporary camera stands at the back of the east stand.

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/09/2016, 5:35 PM

The club told fans about that at the meeting a couple of weeks ago. Don't think it's anything to do with UEFA - just the old dugouts weren't very good and were a bit beaten up.

**RathfarnhamHoop** · 24/09/2016, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

The club told fans about that at the meeting a couple of weeks ago. Don't think it's anything to do with UEFA - just the old dugouts weren't very good and were a bit beaten up.

Ah had a match at the same time as the meeting so couldn't go so didn't know that. Yeah didn't think it was a UEFA thing but thought I remembered people sitting on chairs outside the dugouts in 2011 so went through my mind that it might be the case.

**ger121** · 24/09/2016, 7:22 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

The club told fans about that at the meeting a couple of weeks ago. Don't think it's anything to do with UEFA - just the old dugouts weren't very good and were a bit beaten up.

Did Dundalk get an exemption on the requirement for extra seating for EL Group Stages?

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/09/2016, 7:50 PM

They seem to have, yeah. The capacity will be under 6,000.

**oriel** · 26/09/2016, 12:41 PM

It would appear but not announced yet, that a deal has been finally agreed with all parties involved in the lease of Oriel Park. If this is correct, the club can look at all options of much needed redevelopment and hopefully focus on the priority, the changing of the pitch.

Another issue though is levies being sought by Louth Co Co it appears, although these were from the previous regime, this might be a massive stumbling block to get over.

**ForzaHoop** · 26/09/2016, 1:02 PM

Still no a single word on any new progress on Harps new ground

**sbgawa** · 26/09/2016, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

It would appear but not announced yet, that a deal has been finally agreed with all parties involved in the lease of Oriel Park. If this is correct, the club can look at all options of much needed redevelopment and hopefully focus on the priority, the changing of the pitch.

Another issue though is levies being sought by Louth Co Co it appears, although these were from the previous regime, this might be a massive stumbling block to get over.

That's fantastic if a deal is done , they need to move quickly to make any meaningful progress before next season, realistically it will prob be the next one I suppose

**White Horse** · 26/09/2016, 1:41 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

That's fantastic if a deal is done , they need to move quickly to make any meaningful progress before next season, realistically it will prob be the next one I suppose

They are look at completing this for the commencement of next season. This would necessitate buying in the turf, a more expensive option but less disruptive.

All subject to coming to an agreement with the previous owner and Louth Country Council.

**sbgawa** · 26/09/2016, 1:55 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

They are look at completing this for the commencement of next season. This would necessitate buying in the turf, a more expensive option but less disruptive.

All subject to coming to an agreement with the previous owner and Louth Country Council.

I more so meant improvements to the general Stadium , any meaningful improvements beyond repairs (which are a bit of a waste if you then rebuild) would need planning permission etc. even with no objections and there is always some nutter out there it would be almost impossible to get done in6 months