For anyone who is interested the full appraisal is here
http://www.derrycityfc.net/BPfulleconomicappraisal.zip
You can't have greyhound racing and football in the same all seat stadium, they need very different facilities.
Derry City Council covering themselves in more glory. They didn't have the same trouble giving away Council land to the GAA a year ago....
The Millennium Stand!Originally Posted by pete
Work should be getting underway right about now to be ready in time for the UEFA Cup.
A little light on specific details from the club but it should be a temporary measure until they start on the ambitious ground redevelopment/academy/world domination scheme.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1176819366
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Why didn't they just lengthen the pitch at the other end where there's nothing?
Seems like a bizarre reason to me.
new stand on the up in terryland. See latest photos in the features section on this link: http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie/menu-it...o-gallery.html
always good to see
Will it eventually run the full length of the pitch?
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I think it is a few feet short at each end to allow for futher development behind both goals. There will be 1500 seats plus new dressing rooms, shops, office, press room. Entrance to the new stand will be via new tunstiles in the car park.
I heard that the old clubhouse (constructed in 1993) will be used for 'corporate' hospitality!
The TV gantry (currently a piece of scantly assembled scaffolding!) will move over to the other side. The floodlights will be moved on both sides of the pitch.
The old floodlights will not be taken down until the new ones are ready
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Apart from the structural difficulties the notion of a stand being built over the camac is a non-starter-have you not noticed the bats there during games that are feeding on insects attracted by the floodlights? You will never get PP to interfere with an important urban riparian habitat.The Millennium Stand!
Work should be getting underway right about now to be ready in time for the UEFA Cup.
A little light on specific details from the club but it should be a temporary measure until they start on the ambitious ground redevelopment/academy/world domination scheme.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1176819366
All bat species in Ireland are protected by EU designation.
I can't wait for 'the bats sent us to Tallaght' headlines c.2009!
Maybe you should enlighten yourself and look up Garrett Kelleher.This is the man who is building the Chicago Spire skyscraper and suddenly he's going to have "structural difficulties" in Dublin?
"Bats" and "PP",yep those have been enormous concerns for the authorties over the years
"Tallaght" you're having a laugh if you think thats going to be habitable by 2009.Kelleher isnt some Delboy character,he could probably build in your backgarden before you could say Bobs your uncle
you see the problem in ireland is that you have to get PP for all structures and therefore go through the 'planning process' which involves satisifing old biddies and tree huggers that your building is up to scratch, needed, does not interfere with the natural habitat or the scenic value of the area!! Most other civilised countries work on a 'permit system' where you only need to get a building permit which is given once you show you are going to build within the planning guidelines - cutting out the power of the nay-sayers, old biddies and tree huggers and allowing those other countries to progress smoothly into the 21st century!!!Maybe you should enlighten yourself and look up Garrett Kelleher.This is the man who is building the Chicago Spire skyscraper and suddenly he's going to have "structural difficulties" in Dublin?
"Bats" and "PP",yep those have been enormous concerns for the authorties over the years
"Tallaght" you're having a laugh if you think thats going to be habitable by 2009.Kelleher isnt some Delboy character,he could probably build in your backgarden before you could say Bobs your uncle
Point being that it is much easier for larger developers to build in foreign lands than here at home. and btw if kelleher was able to build in bad mongo's back garden as quick as you say then surely that would make him even more dodgy than a Del Boy type!!!
Last edited by galwayhoop; 15/05/2007 at 9:00 AM.
Thats just batty, hang some garlic off the roof.
I don't think you fully understand the gravitas of the situation. Mr kelleher is not richer than the Irish state or the Eurpoean Commission- which would be within its rights to fine the state millions for potentially destroying the habitat of a protected species.Maybe you should enlighten yourself and look up Garrett Kelleher.This is the man who is building the Chicago Spire skyscraper and suddenly he's going to have "structural difficulties" in Dublin?
"Bats" and "PP",yep those have been enormous concerns for the authorties over the years
"Tallaght" you're having a laugh if you think thats going to be habitable by 2009.Kelleher isnt some Delboy character,he could probably build in your backgarden before you could say Bobs your uncle
It's far easier to build a skyscraper on a brownfield site than build a stadium over a wildlife habitat from a policy perspective.
For example the M7 had to be built in a non-pemeable culvert to protect the Curragh fen from potentially polluted runoff that would destroy the habitat of a rare snail-Now most folks don't give a flyinf f### about a snail but the point was that the snail was an indicator species whose presence determined whether the water was in any way polluted, hence its need to be protected.
Believe me you won't be building a stand over the camac-ask mr kelleher to demolish his expensive sheds at the other end of the ground and build there or else be prepared for a bat bashing lynch mob of Pat's fans scurrying along the banks of the camac when you are told it's a non-starter and you have to change plan.
This argument always gets simplified in the media to the point that pple can't really get a grasp of the context of the situation.
I'm sure Mr kelleher is well aware of the situation-his small change would stretch to an initial site appraisal by planning consultants to flag the issue straight away.
You can blame all those crazy dutch and germans for wanting to protect our bats as all theirs are gone. The irish govt agreed to this back in the day when our only hope of economic advancement was seen to be in keeping the gaff pristine for all the high spending, clog wearing , bratwurst munching visitors from the continent
Mr kelleher is welcome to discuss plans for an extensive mews development in my back garden any time- as long as he's paying and gives me a job working for him afterwards!
For the recor I actually hope Pats stay in richer-just be prepared for some spanners in the works
Last edited by bad mongo; 15/05/2007 at 1:03 PM.
Surely this can't be right?
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What bats? Never noticed any there meself over the years. (Note to Dodge: is he referring to Anto's bats, d'you reckon?)
Anyway, who's to say they actually live in the trees beyond the Camac terrace rather as opposed to being northside bats or culchie bats who happened to wander into Pats airspace for an away game? In which case, we declare a no-fly zone, zap them with some kind of sonar that only bats and Johhny Mc can hear, no resident bats, not a habitat, , problem solved, bulldoze away to our hearts content.
BTW, aren't those snails that held up the M7 now an extinct species as opposed to being merely endangered? Fat lot of good all that do-goodery did them.
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The camac will be a scenic walkway running from ehh new things to ehh other new things.
As bad mongo points out there is PP and rezoning needed before anything could be done to richer or its surroundings. Anyone got Mr Kellehers number we may need to call him and tell him to get something like this done last year.
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More photos of the new stand under construction at Terryland were added to the offical Galway United website...
http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie/menu-it...o-gallery.html
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nice little stand going up there in galway. looks nice and steep too must give a good view of the pitch. tho its a pity they wouldnt extend it the full lenght of the pitch
"No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little." - Edmund Burke
You can see here what the work on the bowl looks like. The dug up bit will have a block of seats put on it and the fencing on the other side of the main stand shows where another block of seats will be. I took the photo 2 days ago, both sides are now dug up and have had a hard surface laid to take the concrete.
http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/176...8473886_rs.jpg
are they gonna concrete behind each of the goals, ala the railway end in Sligo?
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