QuoteAccording to current poll standings, Delaney is (marginally) less popular than Staunton - 91.67% vs 90.68% calling for their respective resignations.
As it should be, I think.
Clubs voted for this. Get over it.Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
According to current poll standings, Delaney is (marginally) less popular than Staunton - 91.67% vs 90.68% calling for their respective resignations.
As it should be, I think.
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Does anyone know who would replace Delaney if he did do the honourable thing?
To me, that's the problem with calling for Delaney's head. The only way he'd go would be for someone within the FAI to organise against him and take the job like Delaney did to Rooney. There's no point in replacing one poor CEO with another.
I'd only like to see Delaney go if someone completly seperate from the FAI was appointed in his place.
IMHO, this is the biggest upswelling of public opinion against an Irish Manager & probably close to the worse that the FAI has experienced. They all know their backs are against the wall, but Delaney must be keeping a low profile, because I have not seen him. The trouble is the FAI are not going to sack him, because they appointed the him, so turkeys are not going to vote for christmas.
They are all waiting to see how Wednesday's match pans out first before the bullets start firing... Scenarios..
Czechs win...even Tony O'Donoghue said on Sunday that Stanton's position would be 'untenable' & RTE do not say things like that lightly.The next question is how does he go. If he goes of his own freewill, Delaney is off the hook, 'he jump he was not pushed..'saving the FAI loads of €€€€€€..leaving him free to resolve the mess that he put us in. The only bullet that Delaney may catch is a vote of no confidence by the public, because god know what he could give us as manager.At the moment he must be slightly odds on to go if we lose.But if Stan is pushed this is the time to go for Delaney's jugular 'metaforically speaking....'He will hardly have a leg to stand on, on any front, this is why he wants stan to stay there as long as possible & only the committee will be able to overide Delaney.
A draw - a bad performance draw, may as well be a defeat, a fighting draw where the Czechs scrape a draw it will be in the balance. They can argue they battled well with what we had against a 'top' team.
Ireland win...it is really funny nearly wishing that Ireland lose, so that Stan & Delaney may get the sack..but really I want Ireland to win.In this scenario it will be very hard to see Stan or Delaney losing their positions. Look at it this way if we beat the Czechs, we may as well for fun reverse the results & look at it a different way.We beat Cyprus but lost to the Czechs at home..if you know what I mean
They only good thing about all of this is that Delaney's card is well and truly marked..
Delaney was interviewed an the sports bit of whatever 5- 7 live is called now (Drivetime?) - slippery as ever, blaming the media for a witchhunt because the football loving people of Ireland wouldn't have known how bad it was if those snakes* weren't telling them. Wouldn't take responsibility for the Staunton appointment and wouldn't give his backing either; the only thing John Delaney cares about is John Delaney, and if Irish football gets in the way, so much the worse for Irish football. Why does nobody have any honour anymore? (possibly too big a question for a football message board, I realise)
* lovely mixed metaphor there - snakes hunting witches...
A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.
What I don't get is how the media doesn't ask him tougher questions. If they wanted to they could make his position untenable.
But Emmet Malone, for example, was almost apologetic for him this morning. I like Emmet Malone but what he wrote in basically one paragraph was so wishy washy I can't believe his editor let him publish it. Something along the lines of ''he may have his downsides but in many ways the FAI is better now than when he came in''. In the current climate that should be a whole article in itself, not just a passing comment.
that's true - John Kenny laid into David Blood in that interview that went out this morning; by comparison the treatment of Delaney was anodyne
A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.
Delaney's just after being interviewed on BBC Radio Five Live and he confirmed that Stan will be staying on regardless of tomorrow nights result.
BBC reporter mentioned that Stan was unhappy that sections of the Irish media were trying to contact his parents for comments.
Tom Humphries had an excellent article in yesterdays Times, about the shafting of Kerr and the appointment of Staunton. Hit the nail on the head. Personally I feel a bit sorry for Staunton. He's clearly clueless and, as I'm delighted to see so many people have cottoned on to, the real fault lies with Delaney and his yes men in the FAI who appointed him. Delaney should pay with his job, whether he does or not probably depends on how Staunton goes(I think there's not much of an "if" about it anymore)as someone remarked earlier. If he decides he can't take the pressure anymore and quits then Delaney is probably safe. Safe to appoint the next manager(does anyone trust him with that job ?) I have to say, and I've written this here before, as someone who has genuinely been unable to support the national team since Brian Kerr was gotten rid of I took a lot of satisfaction from Saturdays debacle. I know I'll probably get slagged off for saying that, but it's how I feel. So many people had it coming. Delaney primarily, the media who savaged Kerr, the fans who wanted him out, the spoilt brat players who seemed to decide they were too grand to be managed by Kerr. They all got what they deserved. I know Kerr had a lot of critics, but is anyone seriously suggesting now that he was replaced by a better manager ? He had done a decent job, with a group of mostly average players, and there is no way on earth he would have presided over a shambles like last Saturday. Remember last years trip to Cyprus ?. Another awful performance, but a win. And also a team that actually tightened up defensively in the second half(I know it's relative) and didn't collapse completely. Some of our idiot journalists should be mentioned too (Hi Paul Hyland, Cathal Dervan if you're reading this) Hyland actually concluded in the Herald yesterday that Brian Kerr was partly to blame for Saturday
Sorry for the rant, and I know I wandered off topic a bit, but the bottom line on Delaney is that he's a snake in the grass who has backstabbed his way to the top of the FAI and he should go. I might be able to support the national team again if he does.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
If i had to pick a candidate to replace delaney, the person would have to be competent, uncorrupt, cared about the eircom league, and not a total foock up!! so i think they are going to have to look for someone externally
What I heard from Delaney in RTE drivetime interview.
In answer to the Q about Stan's appointment - does he take responsibility for appointing a rookie ? Delaney replied to the effect that he supported the appointment but it was the commitee and then the board who ratified it.
Then he went on to say that he would be judged on the overall FAI progress and that since he came in the FAI is a better organization.
In a nutshell if a decision proves to be poor, it's the board's responsibility and if it's positive then it's because John Delaney's here.
For years I've been saying that Son Of Joe was unsiutable for this job.
Since he organised the putsch on Rooney he's
1. stabbed Kerr in the back because he didn't get his own man the job.
2. Appointed a complete novice in his place. Then appointed and ageing, albeit experienced and successful manager as an advisor to take the heat off.
3. When said experienced advisor takes seriously ill, CEO fails to show any leadership in replacing him to support HIS APPOINTMENT.
4. Allows inexperienced manager to struggle on when he obviously needs help.
5. Voices support for said manager.
6. Changes tack and says committee appointed manager when he smells the sh1t hitting the fan.
7. Not to mention the fiasco he's made of the EL (THE NATIONAL LEAGUE).
Delaney has no redeeming features and maybe people will now see him for what he is. A self intersted self centred p*i*k. YES JOHN, YOU ARE. YOU KNOW YOU ARE.
Yet tonight there'll be 1,000s of people at Lansdowne calling for Staunton to be sacked. I've a lot of sympathy for Staunton, basically because luck has gone completely against him with Robsons illnes and injuries to a lot of players. But he should never have been appointed in the first place. However Delaney wanted someone who he could manipulate. Aldo would have told him to fcuk off, so he was never going to get it, nor was any other experienced international manager who would see through his posturings.
If we try to bring placards into the ground they'll be whipped off us by the stewards so the only way is to write to the newspapers, go on Joe Duffy, text all the national and local radio stations and more than anything else create a wall of sound for Delaney to go. Failing all that we should just vote with our pockets. A small piece in yesterdays Indo claimed the FAI were going to make suporters block book for the Croke Park games as they were concerned that interested would wane because of the teams poor performances. More screwing the genuine fans. The suits will always be looked after.
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I have a plan - we should get Bohs legend Conor to walk up to Delaney in his seat tonight and shout his catchphrase 'Fackin' Pwack!' in his face until he goes - and if that doesn't work, there's always Barry.
A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.
For years I've been saying that Son Of Joe was unsiutable for this job.
Since he organised the putsch on Rooney he's
1. stabbed Kerr in the back because he didn't get his own man the job.
2. Appointed a complete novice in his place. Then appointed and ageing, albeit experienced and successful manager as an advisor to take the heat off.
3. When said experienced manager takes seriously ill, CEO fails to show any leadership in replacing him to support HIS APPOINTMENT.
4. Allows inexperienced manager to struggle on when he obviously needs help.
5. Voices support for said manager.
6. Changes tack and says committee appointed manager when he smells the sh1t hitting the fan.
7. Not to mention the fiasco he's made of the EL (THE NATIONAL LEAGUE).
Delaney has no redeeming features and maybe people will now see him for what he is. A self intersted self centred p*i*k
Yet tonight there'll be 1,000s of people at Lansdowne calling for Staunton to be sacked. I've a lot of sympathy for Staunton, basically because luck has gone completely against him with Robsons illnes and injuries to a lot of players. But he should never have been appointed in the first place. However Delaney wanted someone who he could manipulate. Aldo would have told him to fcuk off, so he was never going to get it, nor was any other experienced international manager who would see through his posturings.
If we try to bring placards into the ground they'll be whipped off us by the stewards so the only way is to write to the newspapers, go on Joe Duffy, text all the national and local radio stations and more than anything else create a wall of sound for Delaney to go. Failing all that we should just vote with our pockets. A small piece in yesterdays Indo claimed the FAI were going to make suporters block book for the Croke Park games as they were concerned that interested would wane because of the teams poor performances. More screwing the genuine fans. The suits will always be looked after.
I'll know he'll never read it but this is my form of getting it off my chest.
Apologies
I apoligise for the spelling
Letter to Mr Delaney.
As an Irish fan I have travelled the world following this team. from Italia 90 every game through USA 94 up and down I 95 from New York twise, to Sipan and back. Getting up at 6 in the morning while living in California to watch Ireland play Masadonia and the likes.
Why, because I belived in something. I believed that when the team went out there they would give their best and if that was not good enough , fair enough. I believed that they would have prepared in the best way possible and that the product they put out there was worth my investment in them.
And it was or those years.
Yes there were the few blips on the way and there were times when I felt I was not getting value for my investment but never once did I come away thinking that I was robbed.
Mr Delaney, that is what you have done, you have robbed the Irish soccer fan. You have robbed them of their money, their enjoyment, their patriotism, their loyalty.
You have called them stupid by the simple fact that you say this is all down to media hype when all we needed was a set of eyes to see whats going on.
You have removed any sembalance of pride I had in my team.
You promised me a "world class manager" and I got a trainee.
You got a mentor in and when he had a brain clot you were too stupid to see that it was a bit more than a ham string strain and did not have him replaced even though you had months to do so.
You go on about some four year plan and think its acceptable to the Irish fan that we will put up with a second class product until then.
If this was business and I suppose it is , would the share holders (which I consider myself to be) put up with the management running down the company for 2 years in the HOPE that it would all come together in 2 years time. Nope!!! They would be sacked or forced to resign.
Lastly I think you should apolagise to Stan for the position you have put him in. He has gone from hero to zero in one year in the eyes of many soccer fans. I know he is a stubborn ******* that cant seem to see his own failings but it you that has put him here.
There fore Mr Delaney the conclusion have have come to myself without the help of the media and I'm sure its the same conclusion most fans have come to is that you should resign, get out, go away, get lost, fook off, dont darken the doors of Irish soccer again with your self serving arrogant **** for brains attitude.
Yours Not So Respectfully
An Irish Soccer Fan
Stable-door. Horse. Bolted.
Kerr was widely criticised for not experimenting enough in friendlies. However, he admitted he was under pressure from the FAI to treat such games with respect, play our best players and encourage a big crowd to keep turning up. The Staunton era has seen us go the other route and friendlies were cancelled either through lack of interest from Staunton or inability to secure opposition by the FAI.
Croke Park offered one of the biggest ever marketing opportunities to Irish soccer - opening up our matches to more fans and sponsors than ever before and creating a new kind of atmosphere with 75,000 supporters looking on. By dropping the ball with this 4-year plan/rebuilding toss and treating the Ireland manager's job as a work experience scheme, the FAI look to have blown this opportunity. With a half-(possibly quarter-) full stadium watching Ireland going through the motions in a meaningless group game vs. Slovakia or Cyprus, the GAA will never want them to go back to Lansdowne!!!
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Kerr had to go. That is a red herring. Yes he was a far better manager than Stan but he had lost the dressingroom and we were poor at the end.
I think Delaney has done a good job in running the F.A.I. and apart from one appalling lack of judgement (Stan) will ocntinue to do so. We haven't had a better CEO. I trust the mistake will be rectified and a manager with a proven track record of success will be appointed.
Stan is a very very wealthy man through football and property. Surely he is smart enough to know that he is (and has been) so far out of his depth that it is embarrassing. Football is a funny game but it is not that funny and we will almost certainly lose tonight. He should then do the decent thing and resign. If he hangs around for his payoff then he should be sacked and he should be bloody well made to earn the payoff by the fans and media through abuse.
If Delaney really does think that Stan is capable of managing a football team then I voted the wrong way.
again I am sprry but what good job has he done?
start listing his acheivements cause I cant see any.
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