The John Delaney Discussion thread

**John83** · 07/10/2006, 9:24 PM

I agree, Delaney has his part to play in this too. I think it was Tommy Docherty who said that any chairman who sacks a manager he himself appointed should resign at the same time.

**el punter** · 07/10/2006, 9:25 PM

In fairness neither Stan nor Delaney let the ball doink off their head to give the Cypriots an easy goal, or put in a park football tackle in the box to give away a needless penalty. Andy O'Brien on the other hand did both. Paddy Kenny also gave a goal away.

Ultimately we had 14 highly paid professional footballers representing our country who could not summon the collective nous to beat one of the weakest teams in Europe.

Yes, the management of the FAI and the Ireland team itself may be all wrong, but the players are the most culpable for this defeat.

**higgins** · 07/10/2006, 9:28 PM

Originally Posted by el punter

Yes, the management of the FAI and the Ireland team itself may be all wrong, but the players are the most culpable for this defeat.

If I knew they were the best 11 available then I'd agree but its stans fault he has the players he has playing.

We should not have been in a position where Ireland was playing or where Clinton was playing.

Its Stans fault and Delaneys fault for appointing him.

**Dodge** · 07/10/2006, 9:30 PM

Originally Posted by el punter

In fairness neither Stan nor Delaney let the ball doink off their head to give the Cypriots an easy goal, or put in a park football tackle in the box to give away a needless penalty. Andy O'Brien on the other hand did both. Paddy Kenny also gave a goal away.

Ultimately we had 14 highly paid professional footballers representing our country who could not summon the collective nous to beat one of the weakest teams in Europe.

Yes, the management of the FAI and the Ireland team itself may be all wrong, but the players are the most culpable for this defeat.

The manager is wholly responsible for defensive organistation...

**Stuttgart88** · 07/10/2006, 9:46 PM

Of corse Delaney should go. But he deserved the axe long before tonight, and it's got nothing to do with his deecision not to renew Kerr's contract.

Yes, players made mistakes but despite individual errors we came up well short. Losing 5-2 is a lot better than a waxy crappy result that ends up in us finishing 4th again.

We are not up to the standard required. Why?

There's no easy answer but I think every one of us be it wig-wearing ole ole fan, EPL / SPL armchair regular, eL hardcore, local or national politician or whatever has to look at himself tonight and ask if he's part of the problem.

Funnily enough, the domestic league's status is rising while the national team's fortunes plummets. I'm no eL fundamentalist but I am a proud Irishman. We can hold our own & even excel in all walks of life if we put our minds to it. It looks to me that the future of Irish football would be best served if the Irish actually had more input into it. Where exactly is the alignment of interest beteen the British club system and our national fortunes?

**pete** · 07/10/2006, 9:58 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Funnily enough, the domestic league's status is rising while the national team's fortunes plummets. I'm no eL fundamentalist but I am a proud Irishman. We can hold our own & even excel in all walks of life if we put our minds to it. It looks to me that the future of Irish football would be best served if the Irish actually had more input into it.

National team - 25th in europe
eL ranking - 35th in europe.

The eL had bad couple of years 4-5 years ago so with even modest couple of years ahead will be in the top 30 soon. This with effectively little or no FAI support. Top 20 is achieveable with a bit of FAI & public support.

**Peadar** · 08/10/2006, 8:23 AM

John Delaney has managed to set Irish football back 100 years in a matter of months. The Waterford man must have an agenda to destroy the game from within. He didn't want Brian Kerr as the manager from the very start, so he did everything in his power to have him removed. Then he hired Staunton. He is single handedly to blame for the greatest national shame since Michelle Smith.
There's no point getting rid of Staunton unless we get rid of Delaney too.
Limassol v Cork City FC in Nicosia had a bigger crowd than that game last night. Last year, there were 14,000 Irish in that stadium. We'll end up playing in half empty stadiums, like Wales, if John Delaney is allowed to continue!

**Partizan** · 08/10/2006, 11:24 AM

is it something to do with the fact that the said person is from "Wahherfurr".

Give over your obesession with Delaney. He is not the cause of our current malaise. Its due to 30 years of neglect.

**Billy Lord** · 08/10/2006, 11:28 AM

I blame the parents.

**Peadar** · 08/10/2006, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Partizan

is it something to do with the fact that the said person is from "Wahherfurr".

Give over your obesession with Delaney. He is not the cause of our current malaise. Its due to 30 years of neglect.

The fact that I despise people from Waterford and Louth is secondary to the pain I feel due to the damage Delaney and Staunton are doing to the game I love. You can remain loyal to your fellow county man but don't dare try to defend him to me. I shudder to think of the damage he could do to the eircom League.

**Partizan** · 08/10/2006, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

The fact that I despise people from Waterford and Louth .

Good God Almighty... I thought all that crap was done & dusted.

**The Stars** · 08/10/2006, 11:40 AM

wouldnt be that hard on Delaney...he did support the Super Draw in the the Showgrounds.....ok,maybe you are right.

**SeanC** · 08/10/2006, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

The fact that I despise people from Waterford and Louth is secondary to the pain I feel due to the damage Delaney and Staunton are doing to the game I love. You can remain loyal to your fellow county man but don't dare try to defend him to me. I shudder to think of the damage he could do to the eircom League.

Now, now a bit of objectivity please. Waterford people are human too (allegedly). But Delaney and his cronies were of course completely at fault for last night's fiasco.

We're ****ed. I'm off to search for Scottish ancestors.

**MarkyH** · 08/10/2006, 11:58 AM

Delaney out now before he can do any more damage

**MarkyH** · 08/10/2006, 12:33 PM

Can a mod please put up a poll for the following.

Should John Delaney be fired?

**finlma** · 08/10/2006, 1:20 PM

You may as well add a poll to see if people on here think the world is round.

Course he should be fired and of course everyone thinks so.

Exercise in futility.

**OwlsFan** · 08/10/2006, 1:26 PM

I don't know what either Delaney's or Staunton's salaries are. But I suspect they're both on a pretty penny and have good contracts. COnsequently if they're both fired I reckon it may cost the FAI immediately maybe 1.5 million in compensation. That doesn't include the cost of offloading the various other hangers on, including Robson.

How much will that leave to recruit a decent new manager? Little or nothing I suspect.

We're up the swanny without a paddle I am afraid. Damed if we do and damned if we don't.

**Dodge** · 08/10/2006, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I don't know what either Delaney's or Staunton's salaries are. But I suspect they're both on a pretty penny and have good contracts. COnsequently if they're both fired I reckon it may cost the FAI immediately maybe 1.5 million in compensation. That doesn't include the cost of offloading the various other hangers on, including Robson.

How much will that leave to recruit a decent new manager? Little or nothing I suspect.

We're up the swanny without a paddle I am afraid. Damed if we do and damned if we don't.

Hpw much will he cost us in lost revenue if things continue they way they are?

**OwlsFan** · 08/10/2006, 2:31 PM

That's the obvious reply but my point was we won't be able to afford anyone better.

It's a disaster but those who call for heads to roll have to realise the price of heads, like that of houses, is very expensive.

**Stuttgart88** · 08/10/2006, 2:39 PM

If I remember right Staunton is on about EUR 400k a year, Robson about half that. Peanuts compared to what Robson is used to, but I doubt money was his motivation. Kerr earned EUR 450k.

No idea what Delaney earns. Is it a full time job for him? Isn't he a solicitor or something like that anyway?