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    Quote Originally Posted by reder View Post
    Did kenny ever manage Celtic or was he just director of football?? The 2 roles are a million miles apart in a club.
    He saw out the last third of the season when Barnes went. He won the League Cup against Aberdeen but Celtic were already in the final. Celtic finished up miles behind Rangers in the league. He was supposed to do for Barnes what Robson was to do for Staunton. It was an unmitigated disaster.

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    Agreed. Dalglish is totally discredited. What'll the guy who played Stan Petrov as a full back do for our central midfield?

    And he had the nerve to claim for 700k after the damage he caused. Not for me.

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    So he had a bad spell at Celtic. So what. Many good managers have had bad spells. He is still a lot better than Staunton and might actually light a fire under the arses of some of the players.
    There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.

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    I was referring to his spell at Newcastle too. I was conscious when I posted that it could be interpreted as being the view of a bitter Celtic fan. Honestly, nothing could be further from the truth. It's a wholly objective opinion based on two awful performances at big jobs.

    Dalglish doesn't have the work ethic required for the job. I've thought for a long time that he's lazy & self serving, and only out for what he can get cheaply.
    Last edited by Stuttgart88; 09/10/2006 at 8:45 PM.

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    I think, however, with the current crisis (and let's be honest, this is a crisis), he could do a job.

    He's a good short-term solution.
    There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.

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    I think Staunton should do the decent thing and resign on wed regardless of the result. the Holland and Cyprus games were a disgrace. 4-0 and 5-2 were awful results. Delaney should commit to getting a professional in to run the FAI and a Top football person in to run the football side of it. I dont think Daglish should be allowed anywhere near our national team. He did well when players thought he was a god of a player and not so well with players who didnt remember him playing. We dont need an "international consultant". We need a manager. No players should be guaranteed a start. Keane,Kilbane, O brien and O shea should all be dropped until their form/attitude improves.

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    Appointing Dalglish will just make things worse. Surely they(the FA) can see this? He hasn't achieved anything in football for well over a decade. Bill is right we need a MANAGER - not a bloody consultant. Let Stan look over the under 9s (create a new team for him!!!) or something if they feel guilty about sacking him but God appointing Kenny will only compound our misery even further.

    Ealing - I know we'd never be able to appoint Sanchez. Why the hell would he want to join this sinking ship?? But he is the kind of guy with experience that we need. He gets the best out of a set of players that on paper wouldn't get into our shambles of a side. In reality I'd take the lot of em because they have pride and committment. Lawrie deserves credit for that.
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    British coaching is part of the problem we need to go continental.
    Marcello Lippi or Dino Zoff. At least they would sort out the defence !

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    Neither of them would come anywhere near Ireland.

    Sven Goren was a continental coach in that that's where he learned his trade and he didn't do much for England.

    We just need a manager who isn't a clown like Staunton.
    There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie View Post
    British coaching is part of the problem we need to go continental.
    Longer term, yes, and our underage development plans should reflect this. We should get continentals involved in our league set up and maybe even have foreign referees officiate in eL games.

    But in the near term we just need someone capable of making basic sound team selections and getting the players to play properly.

    Billsthoughts is right when he says all we do is hoof it these days. Full back gets ball, punts it up touchline, midget loses possession to 6 footer...

    There's absolutely no finesse in our play whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    There's absolutely no finesse in our play whatsoever.
    Because none of our players are technically good enough.

    Last Saturday, even the Cypriots had better touch and control. All our guys, including Damian Duff, reputedly our best technical player, needed two touches. Even the simple 10/15 yard pass which should be natural for any top class footballer is often beyond our guys.

    It was not only last Saturday, it has been evident time and time again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Because none of our players are technically good enough.
    We have no worse a first XI than we had under Kerr or McCarthy so I don't buy that we're not good enough to beat Cyprus.

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    no, but its a fair point to make that teams we play against always look far more comfortable on the ball.

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    Isn't there a meeting taking place today to decide Robson's future? Should we expect some sort of decision or will there be the usual fumbling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie View Post
    British coaching is part of the problem we need to go continental.
    Marcello Lippi or Dino Zoff. At least they would sort out the defence !
    Great choices... but neither can speak english... hmmmm suspect both are top of Delanet's list !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Because none of our players are technically good enough.
    I think that is down to way youth players are developed at an early age. Many of the problems have been discussed here.

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    Bottom line: Irish people are more concerned with getting kids to England than developing them as technically competent footballers.
    Bringing in Dalglish would be a joke and only shows that the FAI simply haven't a clue about the game. All he'll do is improve his swing. He has nothing to offer Irish football.

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    According the beeb who in turn are quoting the Star (with each word this becoming less plausible)

    "the FAI set to turn to ex-Charlton manager Alan Curbishley to replace him after deciding against Kenny Dalglish."

    Now .. I somehow doubt that Curbishley would want to be Staunton's assistant .. but I wonder how and where this originated. Was he sounded out in case we were hockeyed against the Czechs?

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    The Curbishley thing sounds ridiculous enough to be true. It's the FAI we are dealing with here remember. Whatever they see in Curbishley I don't know. Who recommended him? And Why? Does he know anything about international football? If he comes in as coach, does this undermine McDonald, who hasn't set the world a light with his coaching manoeuvres yet!

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