New Irish manager

**Armando** · 06/02/2008, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Korea deserved to win that game. Now Spain on the otherhand...........

Greece were the best and most organised team at that Euros. They didnt fluke it, they deserved their success. The Czechs played good football but just couldnt pull it all together.

Again why is he a good manager? What is his coaching ability? Is he good with players? Are his teams solid and compact? etc, etc
These kind of questions are more in line with what im talking about?
Funny how many just use wikipedia to get their answers!

Can't agree with that...and Italians had perfectly good goal ruled out.

**carloz** · 06/02/2008, 3:11 PM

Korea deserved to win that game.

I have to disagree here. Up until Totti was sent off Italy were much the better team. Korea got every bloody decision in that World Cup

**Armando** · 06/02/2008, 3:21 PM

Ye, and Totti was sent off, 2nd yellow for diving. He didn't dive and Italy should have got a peno.

I actually remember being angry watching that game. the ref and assistants were so bias towards Korea...how none of them got their marching orders after a litany of crude fouls I'll never know?

**paul_oshea** · 06/02/2008, 4:00 PM

ya there was something very fishy about that world cup, and im not trying to be funny using that word. Wouldn't be surprised if some of those refs were on it.

**OwlsFan** · 06/02/2008, 4:13 PM

Originally Posted by Armando

Ye, and Totti was sent off, 2nd yellow for diving. He didn't dive and Italy should have got a peno.

I actually remember being angry watching that game. the ref and assistants were so bias towards Korea...how none of them got their marching orders after a litany of crude fouls I'll never know?

Let's see how unbiased you'd be with 80k Koreans breathing down your neck. Refs are only human and there has to a pyschological tendency to favour home teams. I'd love someone to do a study of penalties and compare how many home penos are awarded compared to away penos.

**paul_oshea** · 06/02/2008, 4:24 PM

pyschological tendency

or money! :8

**OwlsFan** · 06/02/2008, 4:41 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

or money! :8

Bet you don't think Oswald shot Kennedy

**Deckydee** · 07/02/2008, 7:50 AM

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer...643-qqqx=1.asp

**mackannovic** · 07/02/2008, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Classic answer. Comments like that just goes to show the lack of interest, or even awareness of the underage setup at the moment.

Ever consider that success at underage level would lead to success at senior level? Duff, Keane, Dunne all experienced success under Kerr, got fasttracked into the senior team, and were all part of the last time we qualified for a tournament. You think that's a coincidence?

Or it's another coincidence when the youth team of a club gets to the FA Youth Cup final, and 2-3 years later they suddenly have a team of young, hungry, intelligent players?

You can't really argue that Long is better off watching Brazil from the bench than playing against a team made up almost entirely of Premiership players?

Ever wonder why there hasn't been another glut of young players making the breakthrough to the senior team since the days when Mick McCarthy gave debuts to Dunne, Keane, Duff, McPhail, Quinn?

Clubs develop players ability not a meeting with your fellow countrymen for 5 days every 2-3 months.

**macdermesser** · 07/02/2008, 8:58 AM

Sheffield United boss Bryan Robson has been given two more games to save his job. (Daily Express)

Appoint a manager quick .. before JD gets any new (old) ideas!!

**tetsujin1979** · 07/02/2008, 9:40 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

Clubs develop players ability not a meeting with your fellow countrymen for 5 days every 2-3 months.

My point was that those players were successful at underage level, and brought that success through to the senior team.
Since then there's been precious little success at underage level, and it's followed through to the seniors

**mackannovic** · 07/02/2008, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

My point was that those players were successful at underage level, and brought that success through to the senior team.
Since then there's been precious little success at underage level, and it's followed through to the seniors

The success was there because of stream of decent players not what happened at underage level. Plus if you call qualifying for one major competition and goin out in the 2nd round after only beating Saudi Arabia success you should probably raise your standards a bit.

**tetsujin1979** · 07/02/2008, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

The success was there because of stream of decent players not what happened at underage level. Plus if you call qualifying for one major competition and goin out in the 2nd round after only beating Saudi Arabia success you should probably raise your standards a bit.

more success than we've had since then

**OwlsFan** · 07/02/2008, 9:57 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

Plus if you call goin out in the 2nd round after only beating Saudi Arabia success you should probably raise your standards a bit.

Or you could call not losing any of the 4 games in 90 minutes, despite the absence of your best player, including games against two of football's world powers, a success. Depends on which glasses you're wearing.

**mackannovic** · 07/02/2008, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Or you could call not losing any of the 4 games in 90 minutes, despite the absence of your best player, including games against two of football's world powers, a success. Depends on which glasses you're wearing.

It certainly does but this is getting off the point. I still think we're grossly underachieving. Should we be settling for and celebrating glorious draws??

My case was for Trap, being that our defence is arguably at its weakest in a long time with the exception of Richie Dunne, so Trappatoni a man notorius for making teams difficult to beat would be ideal. Part if not our main problem in the last campaign was conceding stupid goals, that a well organised side would never.

**TheBoss** · 07/02/2008, 3:59 PM

I would say that are defence is our strong point.

**amaccann** · 07/02/2008, 4:19 PM

Would it be correct (cos I'm too lazy to work it out myself) that Trap has won more major trophies than all the other "contenders" put together?

**OwlsFan** · 07/02/2008, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

It certainly does but this is getting off the point. I still think we're grossly underachieving. .

You're right. We should have been winning the World Cup with Gary Breen, Matt Holland and Kevin Kilbane as our main stalwarts.

Originally Posted by mackannovic

Should we be settling for and celebrating glorious draws??

My case was for Trap, being that our defence is arguably at its weakest in a long time with the exception of Richie Dunne, so Trappatoni a man notorius for making teams difficult to beat would be ideal.

Hmmm, I just said we were difficult to beat in Korea and you say don't settle for glorious draws and appoint someone "notorius for making teams difficult to beat".

**mackannovic** · 07/02/2008, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheBoss

I would say that are defence is our strong point.

Cyprus 5-2, need I say anymore.

**Noelys Guitar** · 07/02/2008, 4:33 PM

Why did the amigos interview Davies yesterday the day of the match? Why not wait until this morning. Have Trapp and Venners turned us down or got ****ed off or had other offers.