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  • Sam Allardyce

    23 11.73%
  • Liam Brady

    17 8.67%
  • Kenny Dalglish

    5 2.55%
  • Didier Deschamps

    44 22.45%
  • Glenn Hoddle

    2 1.02%
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    59 30.10%
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    11 5.61%
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    But fact is Kerr won a LOI, and I bet some Mexican wizard has won a bag loads of titles way off in Mexico City. And can you believe it that O Shea has a few EPL champs medals as well!! Wow.....proves nothing

    I am just going on what I saw for myself, the football under Trap with Italy was a joke, a waste of pure talent in a bad world cup.

    And you still havent answered my question..............have you seen Benfica/Salzburg/Munich play under Trap? Because seeing a football match rather than losing the run of yourself with stats usually works wonders!
    Trappatoni has won every club competition in European Football plus a poxy Intercontinental Cup, so pretty much you could say he's won it all. In my opinion that stands to the man more than Brian Kerrs LOI or Randomanuel Mexicano.

    The World Cup match v Korea was a farce of a game, and if you'd been watching Traps career you'd know this.

    Greece won a European Championship being ugly but I can't think of many Greeks complaining about that.

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    The tikka-tinged spiv

    Today's take from the Guardian:
    http://football.guardian.co.uk/Fiver/0,,2252845,00.html

    May fav bit :
    "There wasn't a bad word said about him," toora-looed Shay Given, proving that nobody in the Irish dressing room is familiar with the work of the tikka-tinged spiv who has never got a team through the qualifying stages of an international tournament and last achieved anything noteworthy in management back in 1991.
    Together with all our hearts.

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    Whats most annoying is that the U21's are playing a UEFA qualifier against England tonight and where is Givens? - in Malahide preparing the senior side for a money-spinner for the FAI against Brazil. I sincerely hope he travels to England tonight. Priorities

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    New Manager After Brazil Game!!

    According to RTE Sport the new mans appointment will be confirmed after the match on Wednesday.They claim Trapattoni remains favourite, but that Billy Davies has entered the frame.IMO, the leaking of the Davies story has kicked the 10 days time line to touch.King Billys inauguration is Imminent....KING BILLY TO LEAD GREEN ARMY! UGH

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Whats most annoying is that the U21's are playing a UEFA qualifier against England tonight and where is Givens? - in Malahide preparing the senior side for a money-spinner for the FAI against Brazil. I sincerely hope he travels to England tonight. Priorities
    Be honest very few people care about U-21 footbal in this country because any half decent U-21 player should be in our first team squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackannovic View Post
    Be honest very few people care about U-21 footbal in this country because any half decent U-21 player should be in our first team squad.
    Which is entirely the wong attitude. We should care about underage results and underage players should only be in the senior squad on merit, not based on promise. Morrison vs Long for example.

    So what if we have to delve into the Championship to make up the cover places? It didn't do NI or Scotland too much harm playing non-EPL players last time out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergalr View Post
    With Father Jack Hackett, Larry Mullen Jr and the alcoholic Leprechaun from the prohibition episode of The Simpsons all unavailable, the FAI gave the job of finding a new gaffer to Don Givens (an FAI employee), Don Howe (a mate of Terry Venables) and Ray Houghton (a wee Scotsman) more than three months ago. However, since then they've conducted more interviews than Michael Parkinson on speed. Among those to have taken the crossbar challenge using a Lucozade Sport bottle instead of a ball are Venables, Ged Houllier, Venables Graeme Souness, Venables, Didier Deschamps, Venables, Theme Pub O'Fiver, Venables, Roy Race, Venables, Samuel Beckett, Venables, attention-seeking Dublin "supermodel" Andrea Roche, Venables and a series of random passers-by on Dublin's O'Connell Street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Which is entirely the wong attitude. We should care about underage results and underage players should only be in the senior squad on merit, not based on promise. Morrison vs Long for example.

    So what if we have to delve into the Championship to make up the cover places? It didn't do NI or Scotland too much harm playing non-EPL players last time out.
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    If its going to happen straight after the Brazil game then it will be Venables. The FAI know it will be a PR disaster if he was announced before or during the Brazil game, they know by now the fans feelings on the man.

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    My gut feeling that any chance that it was Trap is gone by now. Im sure they would have tried to parade him at the brazil game if possible as he would get a great reception. As i said on another thread, if they were going to give it to El Tel, they were always going to do it after the Brazil game to avoid the inevitable PR disaster if he were at Croker

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackannovic View Post
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    Oh you are the smart one, Stuttgart is one of the people on this board who puts across an intelligent and well balanced view of the Irish set up etc. From his posts etc it also shows he cares about the team and the future of the team. I am sure he will be down in Southampton tonight if he can make it.

    You sir add nothing to the forum with rubbish comments like that that only reveal an ingnorance on your part.
    In Trap we trust

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUB of the day View Post
    According to RTE Sport the new mans appointment will be confirmed after the match on Wednesday.They claim Trapattoni remains favourite, but that Billy Davies has entered the frame.IMO, the leaking of the Davies story has kicked the 10 days time line to touch.King Billys inauguration is Imminent....KING BILLY TO LEAD GREEN ARMY! UGH
    Yep thats what I heard too

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackannovic View Post
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    Classic answer. Comments like that just goes to show the lack of interest, or even awareness of the underage setup at the moment.

    Ever consider that success at underage level would lead to success at senior level? Duff, Keane, Dunne all experienced success under Kerr, got fasttracked into the senior team, and were all part of the last time we qualified for a tournament. You think that's a coincidence?

    Or it's another coincidence when the youth team of a club gets to the FA Youth Cup final, and 2-3 years later they suddenly have a team of young, hungry, intelligent players?

    You can't really argue that Long is better off watching Brazil from the bench than playing against a team made up almost entirely of Premiership players?

    Ever wonder why there hasn't been another glut of young players making the breakthrough to the senior team since the days when Mick McCarthy gave debuts to Dunne, Keane, Duff, McPhail, Quinn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    Oh you are the smart one, Stuttgart is one of the people on this board who puts across an intelligent and well balanced view of the Irish set up etc. From his posts etc it also shows he cares about the team and the future of the team. I am sure he will be down in Southampton tonight if he can make it.

    You sir add nothing to the forum with rubbish comments like that that only reveal an ingnorance on your part.
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    In fairness I admit that I do sound a bit like a broken record on the issue of younger players playing senior football when they're not ready

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    Even a broken record is right twice a day! Or something
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    Nah, it just means that you have to give Stutts a gentle whack and then he moves on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Which is entirely the wong attitude. We should care about underage results and underage players should only be in the senior squad on merit, not based on promise. Morrison vs Long for example.

    So what if we have to delve into the Championship to make up the cover places? It didn't do NI or Scotland too much harm playing non-EPL players last time out.

    def agree with this
    One of the terrible things about the present FAI is the neglect of the under 21's and the underage set-up. I think it goes without saying that if you can mould good players and give them good match type pressures, etc at a young setting then it can only benefit the senior team. Givens has totally destroyed the under 21's which i think is a detriment to the senior team

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackannovic View Post
    Trappatoni has won every club competition in European Football plus a poxy Intercontinental Cup, so pretty much you could say he's won it all. In my opinion that stands to the man more than Brian Kerrs LOI or Randomanuel Mexicano.

    The World Cup match v Korea was a farce of a game, and if you'd been watching Traps career you'd know this.

    Greece won a European Championship being ugly but I can't think of many Greeks complaining about that.
    Korea deserved to win that game. Now Spain on the otherhand...........

    Greece were the best and most organised team at that Euros. They didnt fluke it, they deserved their success. The Czechs played good football but just couldnt pull it all together.

    Again why is he a good manager? What is his coaching ability? Is he good with players? Are his teams solid and compact? etc, etc
    These kind of questions are more in line with what im talking about?
    Funny how many just use wikipedia to get their answers!

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    Again why is he a good manager?
    Success in almost every job he has had. Won silverware in Italy, Portugal, Germany and Austria.
    What is his coaching ability?
    He won the Austrian Bundesliga last season by 19 points. This is with a middle of the road Austrian team to make it better. Even at the ripe old age of 68 he is obviously still a successful coach.
    Is he good with players?]
    He gets the best out of them, thats all that matters.
    Are his teams solid and compact?
    Always have been nd its a trait of his that all his teams are very solid

    This is a man that is in the top 5 managers in the world today IMO. What right have we to question him so vigourously. We are Ireland for gods sake, if we can attract a manager of that calibre would be immense. To compare him to Billy Davis and El Tel is just bloody degrading and a complete insult

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