QuoteI'm nervous now. I mean, Trap. has ruled himself out and we don't have ,uch reason to think it's him really...
I heard somewhere not sure, that there is going to be an FAI Board meeting tomorrow.
In Trap we trust
I'm nervous now. I mean, Trap. has ruled himself out and we don't have ,uch reason to think it's him really...
Where did he rule himself out.
In Trap we trust
He didn't rule himself out. Just answered a question.Originally Posted by Philly
"I admire the imagination of certain managers. Two weeks ago, I was being linked with Africa, last week it was in England and now we are talking to Ireland,"
"I'm curious to see where I will be next week."
Watch it be Don Givens, permanent.
I want coppell, is there any chance we'd get hi you think. Otherwise it's trap id say, maybe brady as assistant.
pain is only temporary, glory is forever.
In Trap we trust
I read an article on football365 following Capello's appointment that if England failed to qualify for the next World Cup then the blame could not be placed on the manager, it would have to be the players fault.
Following the loss to Croatia, McClaren was blamed for the failure to qualify for Austria/Switzerland. The players, and to a lesser extent Terry Venables, were excused from it. Many reasons were given - his lack of experience at the top level, lack of success at the top level compared to other candidates (remember Luiz Felipe Scolari was their number 1 choice), lack of tactical acumen, picking the wrong players - but at the end it was clearly obvious that he should never have gotten the job in the first place (does any of this sound familiar?) and should history repeat itself under one of the best managers in the game, and England failed to qualify for the World Cup in South Africa in 2010, then it would be nigh impossible to argue that a man with a history of success at the top level had got it wrong. It simply couldn't be Capello's fault that they had failed to qualify, the blame would clearly lie with the players.
If Trapattoni is appointed, then we may have to retire one of the great excuses for the failures of recent history of Irish soccer - "it's the manager's fault".
Mick McCarthy lost the job because he dropped the services of our best player and couldn't get the best out of the players.
Brian Kerr lost the job because he lost respect of the dressingroom, and couldn't get the best out of the players.
Steve Staunton lost the job because he clearly wasn't up to it and couldn't get the best out of the players.
If Trapattoni fails (and please God he, or whoever is appointed, will not fail) then we as a nation will have to hold up our hands and say "you know what, maybe the players just aren't good enough to qualify". How could we blame a man with league titles in four different countries, who has won every single European and World club trophy, for failure?
It's not just time for the FAI to step up and finally deliver the "World Class Manager" we were promised more than 2 years ago, it's time for the players who have underperformed to stop hiding behind excuses of managerial incompetence and start delivering.
Please be Trapatonni and Brady and not Venables!
Do you want to ring the pilot or should I?
The Sunday Tribune article pretty much goes along with that the Panel plumped for the top candidates who they identified as top of the list and one of them was Coppell who was approached directly. That there are different interviews for different candidates. That Trapattoni, if he wants the job all he has to do is say so, no interview neccessary.
For the first time in months, I'm getting a stiffy over all this. At last the announcement, although I thought it was gonna be on the website, not the awards ceremony.
Anyway, c'mon Trap; Make our day!
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
It is clear that Delaney can't contain himself, with his forecast of a significant announcement (Houllier) to be made at the last board meeting and now again whispers of a last minute gasp triumph to be crowned at a FAI gala celebration.
IŽll believe it when I see Trap walk down the steps of the plane and get on his knees to kiss the tarmac.
So all bookies have stopped taking bets yet Trapattoni is still a decent price on betfair. I just can't see the FAI announcing Venables tonight with everyone expecting Trapattoni. They already issued a statement denying a manager was offered the job after the RTE story and would have surely done the same if this story was false. That's just repeating what Stutts said but it's hard to disagree.
Tapattoni v Venables
I'm not sure if Trap would be the better manager for us despite having a far superior track record. Certain things concern me:
- he doesn't speak English (so I'm told)
- he will 69 in a month
- he is lauded for his defensive style of fooball
- how will the players react to him and how well does he userstand Englisg footballing culture?
- his knowlege of Irish players and the English came is questionable when compared to TV
- how long can will be hang around for?
All fair points.
My mate Mick from Derry speaks fluent Italian. I'm sure he can help.
69 is no big deal as long as he's in good health. What age was Reyhagel in '04?
I've heard it said he's cautious not defensive. I'm sure he knows how to close out games like Israel, Slovakia and Wales away. I'm sure he'd take stock of what we have and select a style accordingly. We have too many impish ball players to be an outright defensive team.
His knowledge of international football (both clubs and countries) would be better than Tel's. Surely that's more important. Our "angloccentric" focus is to our detriment in my opinion.
I'm sure Brady or someone with "local" experience would be in the set up.
3 year contract is rumoured.
Otto was 63/64 when he won in 2004
I don't doubt his knowledge of International football. My point about English footballing culture is, whether we like it or not, that is what our players are used to / have grown up with. I wonder whether he can understand and develop relationships with our players and not alienate them. He is suppose to be a powerful personality which is well and good at club level but in international football its a lot easier for players to walk away if they don't like whats being said.
Any of his teams i remember didn't play great football atall despite all being big clubs and the Italian team.
Yep, in a way Trapattoni would be a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Just the basics of organisation, sensible team selection and motivation are what we need.
I'm far more excited by Trapattoni than Venables, but if I overlook my dislike for Venables I'd concede he could be good. At the very last we'd get an experienced manager who can communicate well and who the players ought to respond to, at best (assuming Trap accepts and your worries don't come to fruition) we'd get a proven winner who would bring that much extra .
I'd be disappointed / concerned if it was Trappatoni but with no leading role for Brady. Juande Ramos seems to be making real strides at Spurs, but it's the bilingual ex-Spurs player Poyet who appears to be the key in getting the message through.
I also have doubts over the character of some of our players. The late 80s/early 90s vintage responded well to Jack's authoritative manner. If the current batch don't like it stuff them.
sky sports news over here in the wee hours of last night - so probably early AM for you lot - also had a shot of allardyce walking down a street as a candidate, along with trap and venables (not in the same shot obviously!). i only mention this since credence was recently given to ssn after they revealed the trap link. allardyce - could we all be in for a bit of a surprise??
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