New Irish manager

**irishfan86** · 17/01/2008, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

Keegan will be good at newcastle as he will be given bucket loads of cash to mould the team into his own. He couldn't have done so with us, where he would have relied upon his tactical nous.

As for Venables, if he wasn't a slimey b*stard lookin fora quick buck people would be more in favour of him. Perhaps.

To be honest I think our team looks like a Keegan team, plenty of attacking players, yet we could end up with an Allardyce or a Sanchez....

I just wonder sometimes about how quick we are to write off certain candidates.

**colster** · 17/01/2008, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by irishfan86

To be honest I think our team looks like a Keegan team, plenty of attacking players, yet we could end up with an Allardyce or a Sanchez....

I just wonder sometimes about how quick we are to write off certain candidates.

You're probably right there. We need a manager who is a good motivator and is not overly worried about tactics. Tactics is short hand for "worrying about the opposition" and messing around with formations and lineups that the last 2 managers have indulged in.

We need a simple attacking system that all the players buy into and consistent team selection and a manager with enough nous and courage to know when to change things when necessary. He needs to improve our setpieces.

Despite all the gloom and negativity we do have the basis of a decent side. We just need the right manager.

Keegan might have been capable of doing that. I have my doubts.

Charlton did it. He conveyed a simple message, motivated the players and changed things when needed.

Sanchez seemed to do this with the North. They didn't fear anyone, had a good team spirit and went out and got on with the job. As well as that they had a set of supporters who got right behind the team. I think that's important. Unfortunately, they missed out on qualification because of results against lesser teams e.g. Iceland.

I don't think Allardyce (one trick pony) or Houllier ( too conservative, but I could be wrong) would fit the bill.
Venables might do it but seem to remember him messing about with formations when he was with England.
Brady has no experience, but maybe he's learned from Wenger.

Coppell from everyone left is potentially the right man for the job.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 17/01/2008, 6:51 PM

Originally Posted by irishfan86

I just have my doubts sometimes about our football expertise- we're deadset against a La Liga winner FFS!

I know there's more to the equation than that, but the percentage of anti- Venables sentiment is a little surprising.

Again, not saying he's my first choice, but the vitriol filled posts I've read on here for the last couple of months surprised me a bit.

1984 ffs!!! 24 years ago, John Toshack was far more successful in Spain then Tel boy but no one wants him either and rightly so.

It's Venables recent record that's the issue, I wouldn't give a toss about his finances if he'd cut it at any of his last 6 (count 'em) jobs.

I'd kill for Coppell at this stage as there but it'll be Venables, O'Leary and Souness were able to see through the bull**** we're expected to swallow straight away. Hope to God I'm wrong.

**Keen2win** · 17/01/2008, 6:51 PM

Will the FAI please hurry up.

**Noelys Guitar** · 17/01/2008, 7:12 PM

Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

1984 ffs!!! 24 years ago, John Toshack was far more successful in Spain then Tel boy but no one wants him either and rightly so.

It's Venables recent record that's the issue, I wouldn't give a toss about his finances if he'd cut it at any of his last 6 (count 'em) jobs.

I'd kill for Coppell at this stage as there but it'll be Venables, O'Leary and Souness were able to see through the bull**** we're expected to swallow straight away. Hope to God I'm wrong.

Newstalk (ontheball) contacted O'Leary today to get his version of events. One of the 3 amigo's called O'Leary before christmas and asked him did he want to be interviewed. O'Leary told the amigo (allegedly Givens) in colourful language thanks but no thanks. On the same show Giles stated he did not want Houllier as manager. Also in answer to a question Giles stated that Brady should be one of the leading candidates. Failed at Celtic but got on well with the players.

**Metrostars** · 17/01/2008, 8:32 PM

Wake me up in about 6 months when this is all over. I think Roy was right. Maybe the FAI is procrastinating to save money.

**Bondvillain** · 17/01/2008, 8:46 PM

Originally Posted by Metrostars

Maybe the FAI is procrastinating to save money.

D'ya think?

**Fr. Joe** · 17/01/2008, 8:56 PM

I've just backed Terry Venables at odds of 7/2 to get the job, odds were too good to turn down.

**stojkovic** · 17/01/2008, 8:57 PM

Venables won the league with Barca, they're first in 11 years. BUT he is NOT fondly remembered at Camp Nou !

In fact winning La Liga had more to do with the brilliance of Schuster.

He is also remembered for signing Steve Archibald instead of Hugo Sanchez who went on to greater things in Madrid.

**Noelys Guitar** · 17/01/2008, 9:07 PM

The betting exchanges can be easily manipulated. Place a large bet on one candidate. Then when the mob jumps on you lay against with a much higher stake than you originally bet. It happens a lot.

**eirebhoy** · 17/01/2008, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

The betting exchanges can be easily manipulated. Place a large bet on one candidate. Then when the mob jumps on you lay against with a much higher stake than you originally bet. It happens a lot.

But how many favourites have we had now? I don't think something like that will result in �150k worth of bets in this market after what's gone before.

**Qwerty** · 18/01/2008, 3:15 AM

Does anyone know who has definitely been interviewed?

The Indo reported Vanables & McCarthy!!??!! were interviewed.

Hodgson was approached in some manner.

Anyone else...

**shakermaker1982** · 18/01/2008, 7:02 AM

Originally Posted by Qwerty

Does anyone know who has definitely been interviewed?

The Indo reported Vanables & McCarthy!!??!! were interviewed.

Hodgson was approached in some manner.

Anyone else...

Sanchez. The British papers have picked up on Houllier - I think the tide is turning against El Tel.

**Stuttgart88** · 18/01/2008, 8:35 AM

Today's Guardian rules out O'Leary & Coppell and says Houllier is in the frame.

**Stuttgart88** · 18/01/2008, 8:37 AM

Originally Posted by Qwerty

Hodgson was approached in some manner

Hodgson was interviewed

**passinginterest** · 18/01/2008, 8:40 AM

On Newstalk this morning they said a big gamble has gone on Houllier and he's now odds on with the bookies.

**Block G Raptor** · 18/01/2008, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by passinginterest

On Newstalk this morning they said a big gamble has gone on Houllier and he's now odds on with the bookies.

Today Fm said Venables would be announced this weekend

**Stuttgart88** · 18/01/2008, 9:08 AM

I just posted in another thread: London Independent says Houllier is close to agreeing terms!

**passinginterest** · 18/01/2008, 9:10 AM

So we can safely say at this stage it's Roddy Collins then?

**GavinZac** · 18/01/2008, 9:19 AM

Originally Posted by passinginterest

So we can safely say at this stage it's Roddy Collins then?

Yes, but then he'd somehow, someway manage to cause us to be relegated from international football. Could be interesting, fighting for promotion with Cataluna, Pais Basque and The Vatican