New Irish manager

**ShamrockIreland** · 07/01/2008, 7:29 PM

I just hope that the 3 wise men and the FAI don't f##k it up for us again. We need a decent manager but talk of bringing back paranoid who said that Mick McCarthy is a joke. Charlton didn't have much support and would have been considered a dodgy candidate today by all off us but he worked wonders. I'm oppossed to Venables,Hoddle,McCarthy but someone from the rest will do. Just get someone in to stop all the chat

**eekers** · 07/01/2008, 7:30 PM

the candidates that have applied (that houghton said were the usual suspects) are kendell etc that sent in their cvs and the trio binned them.

the candidates interviewed are not these same eejits that applied and hopefully not the usual suspects.
hodgson for example wasnt a usual suspect.

he was someone the trio reckoned could do the job and they will no doubt have a few other good candidates interviewed like jol and coppell

**shakermaker1982** · 07/01/2008, 7:40 PM

Originally Posted by eekers

Jol
Allardyce
Coppell
McCarthy
Sanchez
Coleman
Sheridan

are they realistic contenders? Big Sam will have to be sacked by Sunday to have a slim chance of getting a late call by Houghton and co. Coppell is content at Reading and even though McCarthy is hanging on at Wolves he would need to be sacked pretty quickly to enter the race. Sanchez is a possibility but will he get an interview?

**ShamrockIreland** · 07/01/2008, 7:41 PM

the candidates that have applied (that houghton said were the usual suspects) are kendell etc that sent in their cvs and the trio binned them.

the candidates interviewed are not these same eejits that applied and hopefully not the usual suspects.
hodgson for example wasnt a usual suspect.

I've nothing against Mick but he has had his time. I hope its not Kendalls etc who are being looked at. Houghton is a shrewd bloke and hopefully he can interview a decent candiate. We need something different and as you said Hodgson wasn't the usual type. I would like somebody who has a lot of International experience but knowing us we'll end up with Hoddle or someone who couldn't be employed in the Eircom first Division

**tetsujin1979** · 07/01/2008, 8:08 PM

Just to take a different tack - according to football365, the shortlist for the Scotland job includes Tommy Burns, Mark McGhee, Craig Levein, Billy Davies and John Collins. Seeing as how we're a similar team to Scotland, and take the majority of our players from the same level, who of those would you have ahead of El Tel? Or Brady? Or O'Leary?

**Noelys Guitar** · 07/01/2008, 8:27 PM

Originally Posted by eekers

the candidates that have applied (that houghton said were the usual suspects) are kendell etc that sent in their cvs and the trio binned them.

the candidates interviewed are not these same eejits that applied and hopefully not the usual suspects.
hodgson for example wasnt a usual suspect.

he was someone the trio reckoned could do the job and they will no doubt have a few other good candidates interviewed like jol and coppell

Hodgson did not apply. He was contacted by the 3 amigo's on the same day Fulham contacted him. I am hoping that particulary Houghton is going out and is actively seeking good candidates.

**eekers** · 07/01/2008, 9:50 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Hodgson did not apply. He was contacted by the 3 amigo's on the same day Fulham contacted him. I am hoping that particulary Houghton is going out and is actively seeking good candidates.

thats what am saying
no one who applied is getting interviewed i doubt

**Greenforever** · 07/01/2008, 10:49 PM

If Brady is willing to give up his good job at Arsenal and bring Wenger

as his no 2 he should be given the job, the reality is that as in 2002 and 2006 there is no genuine contender even interested in the job.

**Noelys Guitar** · 07/01/2008, 11:59 PM

Examiner says 3 amigos still to interview 6 candidates.

**Bondvillain** · 08/01/2008, 12:25 AM

Interviews are pointless.

Either the FAI know who enough about world football to employ the right man to lead our team (and how to get him) , or they dont.

An "interview process" consisting of Houghton, Howe and Givens genially chatting with men who will inevetably be employed elsewhere by the time this "Wonka golden ticket" style farce is finished suggests they don't.

**eekers** · 08/01/2008, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bondvillain

Interviews are pointless.

Either the FAI know who enough about world football to employ the right man to lead our team (and how to get him) , or they dont.

An "interview process" consisting of Houghton, Howe and Givens genially chatting with men who will inevetably be employed elsewhere by the time this "Wonka golden ticket" style farce is finished suggests they don't.

what???
the fai have shown with the last appointment they dont know enough about football to pick a manager. and they have admitted this. and they have handed the process over to people within the game.
i cant see how anyone can have a problem with this??

the process shouldn't be judged on the length of time it is taking, but on who we see appointed at the end of the day.

**tetsujin1979** · 08/01/2008, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by eekers

the process shouldn't be judged on the length of time it is taking, but on who we see appointed at the end of the day.

That's a good point, but the longer it goes on, more and more of the best candidates are being appointed to jobs, so who are we going to be left with?

**irishfan86** · 08/01/2008, 5:37 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

That's a good point, but the longer it goes on, more and more of the best candidates are being appointed to jobs, so who are we going to be left with?

I tend to disagree with this popular sentiment of a limited supply of managers.

The managerial positions play out like musical chairs, and the reality is that there are more qualified managers than there are positions.

There are good managers out there, and after reading that the 3 amigos made contact with Hodgson, I think we should have more faith in these 3 than we've had so far.

Can't see Houghton going along with a Delaney conspiracy to hire Venables, and I can't see Delaney wanting Venables considering all of the conspiracy talk.

This process does have its faults, but at least we do have footballing people doing this, and at least they are taking their time to consider the candidates.

Last time we rightfully slaughtered Delaney for appointing Stan without a critical approach, and the fact that he's not a football person also troubled many of us.

Personally, I'm going to give the 3 amigos the benefit of the doubt and hold my praise or criticism for when their job is done. If they have the smarts to go after the likes of Hodgson, we may end up with someone decent enough in the end.

**PaulB** · 08/01/2008, 6:54 AM

Didier Deschamps anyone, heard his name mentioned last night as someone who was in the mix, not been talked about a lot, may not be a bad option given some of the other name sbene bandied around

**irishfan86** · 08/01/2008, 7:17 AM

Originally Posted by PaulB

Didier Deschamps anyone, heard his name mentioned last night as someone who was in the mix, not been talked about a lot, may not be a bad option given some of the other name sbene bandied around

I'd love that decision.

**amaccann** · 08/01/2008, 7:37 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

That's a good point, but the longer it goes on, more and more of the best candidates are being appointed to jobs, so who are we going to be left with?

There's no basis for that thinking - there's plenty of good manager out there, it's just that we've shown limited imagination (by "we" I mean collectively, both fans and the press) by dredging up the same list of English-based out of work candidates. Just because Hodgson took on Fulham doesn't mean the well is drying up.

**paul_oshea** · 08/01/2008, 9:04 AM

who coined "bandied about/around", he could now be a millionaire if he had patented it because of the footballing community and its merry band of intellects.

**Stuttgart88** · 08/01/2008, 9:17 AM

Some bloke called Shakespeare I think. Quite a few phrases have been atributed to him down the years.

**osarusan** · 08/01/2008, 9:19 AM

The only positive thing about the length of time this process is taking is that some decent manager somewhere may become available before it comes to a close.

**paul_oshea** · 08/01/2008, 9:19 AM

stuts the sarcasm isn't lost on me, maybe his ancestors would be then, but I have a feeling its a little more recent than that.

it would be great if deschamps got it, but thats probably because of all the other names flying about....

osa* thats what i was thinking too....they'll exhaust all others then suddenly a magical new manager will come along.