New Irish manager

**viagogo** · 20/10/2007, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by DeNiro

....should have went for Guus Hiddink when we had the chance.

Agree 100%.[/quote]

According to Wikipedia Hiddink's contract expires in June 2008 and he has expressed an interest in managing Australia again after this. He is on about 1.7 millon euro a year with Russia (plus bonuses). Cant see Ireland matching this but it would be interesting to see what Australia offer.

**bennocelt** · 20/10/2007, 3:18 PM

[QUOTE=Sligo Hornet;795034]

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Martin Jol may be out of Spurs soon, but would probably go to Ajax.[/QUO

Decent high-profile managers, such as Jol, will almost certainly prefer to continue in the more "prestigious" and lucrative Club management, as you say Stutts........unfortunately!

Jol is rubbish, all talk, rubbish at tactics
leaves Spurs then we will never see him again..........guaranteed

knew Spurs wouldnt do anything this season
were lucky the last 2 seasons, and remember they should have got a CL place the last two years............with or without all their excuses

**eirebhoy** · 20/10/2007, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by viagogo

Agree 100%.

According to Wikipedia Hiddink's contract expires in June 2008 and he has expressed an interest in managing Australia again after this. He is on about 1.7 millon euro a year with Russia (plus bonuses). Cant see Ireland matching this but it would be interesting to see what Australia offer.[/QUOTE]
Hidding signed an extension with Russia until 2010.

**Newryrep** · 20/10/2007, 4:02 PM

Originally Posted by viagogo

According to Wikipedia Hiddink's contract expires in June 2008 and he has expressed an interest in managing Australia again after this. He is on about 1.7 millon euro a year with Russia (plus bonuses). Cant see Ireland matching this but it would be interesting to see what Australia offer.

A better bloody climate for a start - se also Trinidad and Tobago and all those middle east teams

We have to be realistic with regards who would want the job - it will NOT be a top tier manager.

**shakermaker1982** · 20/10/2007, 4:10 PM

David O'Leary is not the solution, he won't be able to buy in a team so he'd be useless. I'd be happy enough/content with Paul Jewell but Houllier would be more to my liking.

**shakermaker1982** · 20/10/2007, 4:14 PM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...k-1200261.html

looks like it will cost the FAI a million euros to get rid of Stan. Don Givens likely to manage the team against Wales if Stan is sacked.....

**CollegeTillIDie** · 20/10/2007, 4:59 PM

He already managed the national team once before so why not for this one game.

**backstothewall** · 20/10/2007, 5:53 PM

There is no rush. we don't really need a permanant manager until 2008/09 season.

If Jewell would take it now i would go for him, or Houllier who i think would do a good job, although i would like to see him given responsibility for a lot of under age structures and sorting them out if he is available. But far better to wait for the right man to come available, rather than rushing an appointment now.

Who knows who will be out of a job by the end of the season, or how well John Sheridan might do and come into the reckoning

**Morbo** · 20/10/2007, 6:03 PM

I'm tired of people saying Keane should get the job, yes he had a very good season with Sunderland last year but he has still only been a manager for a little over a year and 1 good season doesn't make you a great manager, add to that his appointment is likely to divide the squad, Saipan isn't ancient history yet and there is bound to be a few who wouldn't be overly happy with Keane's appointment, it would be wise to wait another few years before considering Keane.

I'd love to see Hiddink, Beenhacker[sp?] or Coppell get it but that seems unlikely, of the likely candidates I'd go with Jewell.

Paddy power have Brady at 20-1 and Giles at 33-1, are they having a laff? No way I can see Giles getting it, Brady is just about within the realms of possibility but should be more like a 100-1.

**craig7042** · 20/10/2007, 9:33 PM

[QUOTE=Armando;795884]

Originally Posted by craig7042

How in Gods name is Hodgson on the same level as Aldo, Moran and Whelan?!
....then you go on to recommend Souness and Venables.

I give up!

I believe that the media and Dunphy are the key to everything at this time in Ireland. They have destroyed 3 managers now, singlehandedly, because they didnt respect them and the managers didnt play ball with them.

So the next manager has to impress the fools...
When I read a name I think - will they make mincemeat of him?

They need to have character and personality in terms of standing up to the media. Will Hodgson really stand in front of that media group and impress them? Will he command their respect?

I think Venables would talk the talk and so too Souness. And by the way I do believe that the only good england team I've ever seen was in euro 96 - they had a simple but effective system and they attacked. Souness would have presence and experience to command respect even though he hasnt been a big success. How many people have had massive success

Now let me get this straight. This is a stupid way of picking a manager and I'm not a believer AT ALL in manager's having to have presence and personality. If they can do the job then thats what should count. But do you not think that McCarthys Barnsley accent affected how some people viewed him? Do you not admit that Stans mumble annoyed people? Its completely stupid ,but I think you need someone the media will respect as a personality.........

**Kivlehan** · 21/10/2007, 4:32 AM

Originally Posted by Morbo

I'm tired of people saying Keane should get the job

From: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnbrf121.xml

Keane refutes Republic of Ireland speculation

Sunderland boss Roy Keane has denied that he is set to replace embattled Republic of Ireland manager Steve Staunton and has commited his long-term future to the club.

He said: "I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. What happens with the FAI and what manager they decide to employ now or in the future doesn't concern me."

**danonion** · 21/10/2007, 6:11 AM

Not pleased, but I've put big money on Dowie, he's going to land the job

**OwlsFan** · 21/10/2007, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by craig7042

I believe that the media and Dunphy are the key to everything at this time in Ireland. They have destroyed 3 managers now, singlehandedly, because they didnt respect them and the managers didnt play ball with them.

So the next manager has to impress the fools...
When I read a name I think - will they make mincemeat of him?

I think you exaggerate the influence of Coco the Clown. Saipan/Keane and the qualifying campaign that followed destroyed Mick. When a manager falls out with his top player and the results don't go well, there is only going to be one winner there. Even if Coco was in favour of Mick, the large section of Keane fans would have ensured the demise of Mick. I wasn't too disappointed to see Mick go even though I had no time for the self-serving Corkman as I thought that Mick had brought us as far as he could.

Brian Kerr: I don't remember any massive campaign by the special one against him. Football is a results game. If you don't get the results, the fans and media turn against you. Hence, exit Kerr stage right.

Next to no fans/media supported the appointment of the "world class team" (certainly not the 4 year contract). If Bobby R didn't get sick and could have held Stan's hand a bit more, who knows but it wasn't to be. I don't think Drunkphy had a major impact on any of those decisions (although Stan isn't gone yet). We don't need Dunphy to tells us 5-2 in Cyprus and the other results aren't acceptable. Most people can think for themselves and don't need someone who hasn't managed even so much as an Under 11 local team to tell us who or who is not up to the job.

**Irish_Praha** · 21/10/2007, 10:55 AM

Although it was never going to happen we can rule Mourinho out now too.
From Sportinglife/News of the world
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...&TEAMHD=soccer

He told the News of the World: "I couldn't see myself coaching any national team other than Portugal. If I were coach of another team and had to face Portugal, it would be wrong.

He added: "I'm completely against having foreigners with national teams, not because I doubt the professionalism with which they do it, but I think that a national team should bring together the best players and the best coach from each country.

"The national team is an obsession for me but it will be at the end of my career. Let there be no doubt about that."
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His last statement about the best coach from the country to manage the national side is probably spot on for a larger country than Ireland or at least a country with a better national league that has experience managing teams in the group stages of European competitions. However, Ireland has no stand-out candidate. So IMO we just have to aim for a foreign manager.

If we were now back in 2002 and looking for a manager after McCarthy it would be more accectable to try out a successful EL manager, an ex-player or someone with only a few years experience in management. However, the fallout from the Kerr and Stan era is that anything other than a respected manager with a good record at international level or a high level of club football, will not be given much of a chance from the fans or the media. After 5 years of mediocracy (or worse) we need/deserve something a bit special. However, I can't see this happening as in all fairness it's not a very attractive job at the moment, but maybe there is a decent manager out there who sees the potential of this team and would relish the challenge of giving the players a kick in the @rse and taking on the Irish media and oh yeah dealing with the FAI. I think we are destined to get someone like Dowie, Jewell etc. and have to hope they have what it takes.

**Irish_Praha** · 21/10/2007, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Coppell seems to be getting a good few mentions in the Sunday papers over here. Maybe he has taken reading as far as he can go?

He would be a great appointment but I think considering what he has done for Reading they wouldn't be so keen to let him go even if they are relegation cadidates for the whole season. I reckon they would give him another season in the Championship. Similar to what Birmingham have done with Steve Bruce, although his job is in the balance for other reasons at the moment.

Could the FAI pay off Stan, pay compensation for a manager who is already in a job and still have enough funds left over to offer a good wage?

If Stan had any true feelings for Irish football he would terminate his contract and leave without asking for compensation. I would have a lot more respect for him then.

**eirebhoy** · 21/10/2007, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by danonion

Not pleased, but I've put big money on Dowie, he's going to land the job

Where did you get the odds? I e-mailed Paddy Power and they told me he was 50/1. I can't find the market on their website today though.

According to the Indo, Coppell is very interested in the job and the FAI are willing to pay up to €1.5m a year.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 21/10/2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by danonion

Not pleased, but I've put big money on Dowie, he's going to land the job

I would be very, very surprised if the Blonde Adonis got the job. I'm not sure why as there's a couple of former NI players I could see and wouldn't mind seeing managing us.

He also has a decent chance of taking Coventry City up this season.

As for Steve Coppell. Notwithstanding Readings indifferent form I would be surprised if any current premiership manager walked out of their job to move into the relative backwater of international football unless it entailed a substantial pay hike.

The English job aside, I can't think of a single top-flight-in-England manager who's left a job to take an international gig in the last 25 years.

Open to correction ...and job shares don't count.

**pete** · 21/10/2007, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

According to the Indo, Coppell is very interested in the job and the FAI are willing to pay up to �1.5m a year.

Insane money for unproven manager. That money would get you a world class experienced proven manager.

There is a long list of managers who have got teams promoted to the Premier League only to fail. Coppell would not be able to handle the media pressure & based on this season prone to some bizarre tactics.

**Noelys Guitar** · 21/10/2007, 12:01 PM

For betting purposes Houllier at 40/1 must be the best bet. Would'nt be my choice but I can see the FAI going for someone like him. Can handle the media. Has had some success (and failures). Has managed at international and premiership level.