New Irish manager

**Hibernian** · 09/01/2008, 2:23 PM

Fair enough I understand what you are saying but I do rate him I did not rate that German team and he gave the country the belief that they could go on and win it even though they came up short.

I think he would have the respect of the players and the fact he lives away I dont think I would consider that a bad thing if he were willing to approch the job in a professional manner

**Stuttgart88** · 09/01/2008, 2:30 PM

I probably share your gut instinct but it'd be a gamble.

On top of what you said, I thought Klinsmann did very well to change defensive tactics from the high line that was exploited badly against Costa rica(?) in the first game to a very mean defence that was very tight for the rest of the tournament (in fact until the recent dead rubber at home to the Czech Rep.). Maybe that was first night nerves but generally I thought Klinsmann set the team out very well during that tournament. Then again, having good players and brilliant home support does help!

**Metrostars** · 09/01/2008, 2:40 PM

Klinsmann was in talks over taking the US job last year after Arena got the boot but the negotiations collapsed because he wanted full control of not only his own coaching staff, but the youth national teams and coaching supervisors as well.

Like the USSF, I'm sure the FAI would not want to relinquish full control either.

**eirebhoy** · 09/01/2008, 2:45 PM

Last 6 posts moved from the Houllier thread.

**zenokelly** · 09/01/2008, 2:50 PM

I always wanted Hodgson or Houllier to get the job and considering the former has been taken, I'm happy with this news. He is by far the most successful candidate in terms of trophies. His time in charge of Liverpool may not have been fantastic, but he still brought 3 trophies in 1 season, he brought them back to the CL and 2nd in the Prem.

This would be a real step forward if the FAI did appoint him, but could only see him sticking around for 1 campaign.

But I hate everyone on here picking out the bad points about every candidate. 99 % of managers will not have a clean slate through their managerial career. Barely anyone on here are actually positive about any candidate, other than maybe Hodgson.

This lad is a high callibre manager. FF's if the 3 man panel do appoint him.

*was moved from the Houllier thread for some reason.

**Over the post** · 09/01/2008, 2:52 PM

Never fear, now we have Didier Deschamps coming up on the outside. He's already overtaken O'Leary and Giles and is breathing down Dalglish's neck.

Update: Deschamps now after jumping ahead of Dalglish and Hoddle; has he been seen around Merrion Square by any chance?

I reckon he'd make a good manager.

**Block G Raptor** · 09/01/2008, 3:29 PM

Originally Posted by Over the post

Update: Deschamps now after jumping ahead of Dalglish and Hoddle; has he been seen around Merrion Square by any chance?

Unless he was waiting for a bus to abbottstown he was in the wrong place

**Dr. Ogba** · 09/01/2008, 3:34 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

eh, wrong again..

v cameroon started and finished game
v germany started and replaced in 73 min replaced by quinn - tactical sub
v saudi arabia started and replaced in 80 min by mcateer when we were 3 nil up!
v spain started and again replaced by quinn for tacctical reasons in 55 min

his game time in the 02 wc hardly smacks of an out of form player

For "tactical reasons" I see as "ineffective"

Its no coincidence that we went behind in every one of those matches (bar Saudis) as McCarthy had picked the wrong team and played the wrong tactics from the off in each game and only when we changed in the second half of these games did we in any way come back in to those matched.

But anyway I think we can agree to disagee on this one, suffice to say that I don't want McCarthy back as I don't rate him as a manager and never did even before Saipan...

**Drumcondra 69er** · 09/01/2008, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba

For "tactical reasons" I see as "ineffective"

Its no coincidence that we went behind in every one of those matches (bar Saudis) as McCarthy had picked the wrong team and played the wrong tactics from the off in each game and only when we changed in the second half of these games did we in any way come back in to those matched.

But anyway I think we can agree to disagee on this one, suffice to say that I don't want McCarthy back as I don't rate him as a manager and never did even before Saipan...

You must have been watching different games to me so. I was at each of those games and totally disagree that we made any major tatical changes against Cameroon (McAteer off injured at half time replaced by Finnan). Against Germany the change was to bring Quinn on to try something different agreed but the fact is that he didn't have 90 minutes in his legs so that was the only way he was going to be deployed. He was hardly going to start and get hauled off at half time was he? Ditto for the Spain game and you can't draw any conclussions from the Saudi Arabia game. I really don't know how you could say Kelly was ineffective in those games, while there were questions being asked over Harte's performances this wasn't the case with Kelly.

We'll agree to differ alright but I'd be interested to see what team you would have put out out of the squad of players left that actually wanted to represent their country on the world stage and what tactics you'd have used if McCarthy's team selection and tactics were so wrong.

As already stated I don't think he'd be the right appointment given the baggage at this stage but I can't agree with your assesment of him as a manager and believe it's rooted more in dislike for him over Saipan then any concrete facts.

**eirebhoy** · 09/01/2008, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by Over the post

Never fear, now we have Didier Deschamps coming up on the outside. He's already overtaken O'Leary and Giles and is breathing down Dalglish's neck.

Update: Deschamps now after jumping ahead of Dalglish and Hoddle; has he been seen around Merrion Square by any chance?

I reckon he'd make a good manager.

Above post moved from the Mick McCarthy thread. Jesus lads, do you want 12 identical threads?

**Over the post** · 09/01/2008, 4:43 PM

Looks like Allardyce has just been sacked. Another one for the list.

**Jerry The Saint** · 09/01/2008, 4:48 PM

Originally Posted by Over the post

Looks like Allardyce has just been sacked. Another one for the list.

Newcastle United have parted company with manager Sam Allardyce, Sky Sports News understands.

More to follow...

BIG Sam a big-time contender. Very much a Jewell-type English grafter that the FAI seem to love. LOI experience will not help him get the job, given Delaney's self-confessed bias against managers from our own league, but may be used as a selling point for the appointment.

**Over the post** · 09/01/2008, 4:54 PM

Allardyce has just jumped from 50-1 to 16-1.

Agree he's the grafter type and while that's how we've got our best results in the past, I'm not sure whether his style of football would stifle the talents of some of the young lads coming through.

Still, I'd take him ahead of most of the other misfits being touted as candidates.

**irishfan86** · 09/01/2008, 6:03 PM

Really heartened by the fact that McCarthy and Houllier seem to be in the mix now.

While I don't think Deschamps would take the job, I would be over the moon if he did.

As for Big Sam, while I think he is a fantastic manager, I don't think he's the right guy to get the most of our flair-filled squad.

**zenokelly** · 09/01/2008, 8:50 PM

Any chance of making a new poll with the current candidates? It would be interesting to know who the majority want now

**geysir** · 09/01/2008, 9:38 PM

I haven't a clue about Deschamps. Why is there such positivity about him?
I know he had Monaco in the top 3, they were near bottom the season before he came.

He brought Juve back in the top league, can�t have been that hard? Was he thought to be a longer term Juve manager?

If Houllier is in the frame, I think he is the outstanding candidate.

We need a new poll. One last hurra from the supporters before the D Day.

**dr_peepee** · 09/01/2008, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by irishfan86

Really heartened by the fact that McCarthy and Houllier seem to be in the mix now.

While I don't think Deschamps would take the job, I would be over the moon if he did.

As for Big Sam, while I think he is a fantastic manager, I don't think he's the right guy to get the most of our flair-filled squad.

Nah... On paper yeah he's a good option, but he'd just do a Laurie Sanchez/Walter Smith/Alex McLeish on us....

**geysir** · 09/01/2008, 10:37 PM

How about a poll on this lot taken from the betting list

Big Sam Allardyce
Liam Brady
Kenny Dalglish
Didier Deschamps
Glenn Hoddle
Gerard Houllier
Mick McCarthy
David O'Leary
Graeme Souness
Terry Venables

**Noelys Guitar** · 09/01/2008, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

How about a poll on this lot taken from the betting list

Big Sam Allardyce
Liam Brady
Kenny Dalglish
Didier Deschamps
Glenn Hoddle
Gerard Houllier
Mick McCarthy
David O'Leary
Graeme Souness
Terry Venables

Good idea. The list has changed completely

**livehead1** · 09/01/2008, 11:20 PM

Yeh should narrow it down, theres a couple on there who won't get it. The next manager will never be liam brady for example...although the FAI are a strange bunch!