New Irish manager

**soccerc** · 08/01/2008, 4:34 PM

**jbyrne** · 08/01/2008, 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba

Don't know how you can say he had a good world cup as he was substituted in every match and offered absolutely nothing as either a full-back or

eh, wrong again..

v cameroon started and finished game
v germany started and replaced in 73 min replaced by quinn - tactical sub
v saudi arabia started and replaced in 80 min by mcateer when we were 3 nil up!
v spain started and again replaced by quinn for tacctical reasons in 55 min

his game time in the 02 wc hardly smacks of an out of form player

**kriscommons** · 08/01/2008, 5:19 PM

Direct from the betting industry I can tell you that didier Deschamps might just be the proverbial rabbit out of a hat for the FAI.

Being backed this evening. Fingers crossed.....

**ramsfan** · 08/01/2008, 5:30 PM

wouldnt be a bad choice

**Drumcondra 69er** · 08/01/2008, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba

I have no doubt in my mind that Finnan was the better player at the time (a quick wikipedia search shows that he was named in the PFA team of the year 01/02). It is you, sir, that is rewriting history - Kelly wasn't even a first team regular with Leeds at the time (there was a lot of chopping and changing with Danny Mills).
Finnan was the up-and-coming player at the time and Kelly was most definitely on the way out. Don't know how you can say he had a good world cup as he was substituted in every match and offered absolutely nothing as either a full-back or winger....

Correct although some of us wouldn't have needed to reference Wikipedia to be aware of that. However, the point I made was that He had only one season of top flight football behind him at that stage whereas Kelly had been regularly playing at that level for 9 seasons by then, had been an international for 8 years and had had numerous European games in club football under his belt. By your logic Wayne Bridge should have been playing for England then yeah? And Kelly was a regular in the Leeds team that season from December till the end of the season bar a few games here or there. Him and Mills both had injuries that year and chopped and changed.

**NeilMcD** · 09/01/2008, 11:14 AM

In relation to betting and the manager I was listening to Brian Kerr on the Pat Kenny show and he was saying what happens is that a bookmaker may get one of his mates or somebody to put a good bit of money on a candidiate, if the market is slow. This brings down the odds of the candidate for example Kenny Dalglish. People then feel that there might be something in it and put money him themselves. This sort of thing seems to have happened a few times in relation to Irish job.

**geysir** · 09/01/2008, 11:45 AM

I wonder where Brian heard that? sounds like he had a good discussion in the pub with his mates.

What is to stop a bookie gradually bringing down the odds of a sleeping candidate without the need for a friend actually placing money on the candidate. In sync with a few well placed discussion board posts rounded off with the relevant "proof" - Hackett photocopy machine activity or the brother in law's mistress etc.

I don�t know but is the Ireland manager betting market any more lucrative that the 500 markets on line now? I think their main concern is not to get caught on the hop when there is the final push on the winner. In this market, doesn't the favourite always win in the end?

**Noelys Guitar** · 09/01/2008, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

I wonder where Brian heard that? sounds like he had a good discussion in the pub with his mates.

What is to stop a bookie gradually bringing down the odds of a sleeping candidate without the need for a friend actually placing money on the candidate. In sync with a few well placed discussion board posts rounded off with the relevant "proof" - Hackett photocopy machine activity or the brother in law's mistress etc.

I don�t know but is the Ireland manager betting market any more lucrative that the 500 markets on line now? I think their main concern is not to get caught on the hop when there is the final push on the winner. In this market, doesn't the favourite always win in the end?

Surely your not suggesting FD would stoop so low are you Geysir? Jeekers whats the world coming to.

**geysir** · 09/01/2008, 12:08 PM

FD?

I hear that Paddy Mulligan will be discussing the merits of Houllier on Newstalk in the next hour or so. Is there anybody who talks more sh�te than PM about subjects he knows nothing about? ( apart from Roddy Collins of course)

**Wolfie** · 09/01/2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by kriscommons

........ didier Deschamps might just be the proverbial rabbit out of a hat for the FAI.

I thought he was a Frog.

**Bondvillain** · 09/01/2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

FD?

I hear that Paddy Mulligan will be discussing the merits of Houllier on Newstalk in the next hour or so. Is there anybody who talks more sh�te than PM about subjects he knows nothing about? ( apart from Roddy Collins of course)

John Delaney talks an awful lot about Football, and telling the truth.

**Metrostars** · 09/01/2008, 12:25 PM

4 weeks until the Brazil game. Will a manager be in place by then? 11 weeks since Staunton was given the chop. WTF ?

**DotTV** · 09/01/2008, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

In relation to betting and the manager I was listening to Brian Kerr on the Pat Kenny show and he was saying what happens is that a bookmaker may get one of his mates or somebody to put a good bit of money on a candidiate, if the market is slow. This brings down the odds of the candidate for example Kenny Dalglish. People then feel that there might be something in it and put money him themselves. This sort of thing seems to have happened a few times in relation to Irish job.

I used to run a bookies and in a market like this it wouldn't take much to go from 10/1 to 3/1 or something. I'd be more alarmed if someone went seriously odds on

**DotTV** · 09/01/2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfie

I thought he was a Frog.

**Stuttgart88** · 09/01/2008, 12:28 PM

Is slashing an outsider's odds to anything inside 10/1 (or some other psychologically "realistic" number) not merely a way of attracting a few quid and getting some publicity?

I knew this type of thing would happen, just as it did last time out.

**Noelys Guitar** · 09/01/2008, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

FD?

I hear that Paddy Mulligan will be discussing the merits of Houllier on Newstalk in the next hour or so. Is there anybody who talks more sh�te than PM about subjects he knows nothing about? ( apart from Roddy Collins of course)

Mr Drury of PP and friend of Kerr.

**Stuttgart88** · 09/01/2008, 12:35 PM

A summary of Mulligan's remarks would be appreciated.

**geysir** · 09/01/2008, 1:04 PM

I missed it but given that I would rather have a chat on the phone with the Mother in Law it didn't rate too high on my attention list.

**Hibernian** · 09/01/2008, 2:13 PM

God once El Tel, Brady or Giles do not get the job it wont be too bad hopefully.

No matter who we get someone wont like him even if it were Wenger or Lippi there always people who are never happy.

At present I would love see us at least approach Klinsmann be worth a shot, 99.99% chance he say no but jesus lets be some bit upbeat about this.

You might think im away with the birds but at end of day we have to get the best man possable that we can find.

We have the players to get to South Africa but we need the right man to get them there

**Stuttgart88** · 09/01/2008, 2:18 PM

Just curious why Klinsmann is so popular. He got Germany to the last 4 of a home tournament but has no experience of qualification, no club experience and was widely derided for spending nearly all his time in California.

I think he could do a decent job if he applied himself but has he been properly tested in management?