New Irish manager

**DeNiro** · 08/10/2006, 5:42 PM

I think as long as Delaney is there Aldridge won't be.

**eirebhoy** · 08/10/2006, 5:56 PM

Originally Posted by Fivesilver

Kerr got us FOURTH . . . behind ISRAEL.

What's wrong with Israel and will they ever get the credit they deserve? They're a decent team.

I'm not going to type a post of why I liked Kerr but I will just say that the difference between us and the group winners (eventual WC finalists) was 1 Thierry Henry goal. He got very little luck. We deserved to beat Israel 5-0 at home and certainly showed passion in that game. We lost our captain and arguably most important player for the crucial game in Switzerland. We lost our striker for the big game against Russia. We lost our only real creative player when we needed him most in the home game against Switzerland. If he got the slightest bit of luck we'd have had at least a playoff place and I'd say we'd have done well at the WC considering we rarely lost under Kerr.

I'm not saying his time in charge was a success but I still rate him really highly as a manager and I think he'll prove himself across the water. I didn't really hear much of him commentating last night but I did hear him say that the team needed a holding midfielder last night. There's no way Kerr would have fielded that central midfield pairing.

**deadman** · 08/10/2006, 6:16 PM

hello .... niall quinn

available, kinda ... more experience than stan

**onenilgameover** · 08/10/2006, 6:19 PM

i'd consider pat fenlon too.

...also klinsmann is free and what with the germans in our group...........

**pineapple stu** · 08/10/2006, 7:18 PM

Mick McCarthy.

**endabob1** · 09/10/2006, 8:57 AM

I wasn't upset when Kerr went I felt that he might have been given another campaign (like McCarthy was) but there was a fundemental lack of ambition with Kerr's teams. We lacked a killer instinct against Israel home and away when we were clearly the better side and at home to Switzerland it was clear they would come for a 0-0 we never really went for it, we were as well to lose as draw that game with 30 minutes to go we should have had 3/4 up front but we never looked like winning it.
The other reason I wasn't upset when Kerr went was I really believed we would end up with a top line manager, the appointment of Dumb and Dumber left me in shock. I wanted to believe that they would progress us past the level we were at under Kerr but 4 defeats in 5 games including the humiliation at the weekend has realised my worst fears. I wanted Stan to get the full campaign but I was wrong, the damage has already been done and I think he needs to go and we need to appoint someone who will instill fear and respect into the players. Who that is at the moment I have no idea the names in the frame like Daglish, Aldridge, Souness, Curbishley none of them inspire confidence;
Daglish is the only one who has really done it at Club level but he's been out of the game for a long time,
Aldo has the passion and some experience but I think would be better as a No2
Curbishley doesn't inspire me, I reckon he would be another Kerr, well organised but probably lacking the killer edge
Souness wouldn't take any crap and would be his own man but I just don't rate him as a manager.
Any of them would be better than Stan though!

**Stuttgart88** · 09/10/2006, 9:17 AM

I'm going to do a Stan and remain stubborn. I was glad to see the back of Kerr, a man I like & admire to this day. I'd love to know the EXACT truth about his tenure though. What exactly was his realtionship with his players and why?If the simple answer is that they were lazy & spoilt then **** them.

Most of what eirebhoy says above is true. And one thing is very important that's maybe being selectively overlooked: the role of Chris Hughton. Surely he was at least a sounding board for tactics and substitutions etc? Or was Kerr simply too stubborn himself & authoritarian? Was he too out of his depth at this level?

Does any of us really know?

Scotland could easily have lost to France. It's not a science. Henry hit the inside of the post from 25 yards against them, he scored from 25 yards against us. They scored from a corner, we hit the post from a free kick. We might have got a draw, narrow win, they got a narrow win.

But: the way they set themselves up gave them every chance. The way we're setting ourselves up now gives us no chance. A winger and a midget (no fault attached to stephen Ireland for saturday) can not compete against ANYBODY at international level.

No top class manager would work for Delaney. Many would work for Kerr.

Would I prefer Kerr to Stan? Yes.

I'm going to get tendonitis my knee is jerking so much this morning!

**smellyfeet** · 09/10/2006, 9:17 AM

Give the job to Ger Loughnane....He would get the players to work hard and with a bit of pride not like the ***** Staunton....No seriously tough,what is going to happen. This is no joke at the moment, and the thing is that Staunton has got the backing of Delaney and as long as he is there so will staunton...Hopfully after the Czech game there will be a desicion make on Stauntos future.

**Stuttgart88** · 09/10/2006, 9:19 AM

Originally Posted by deadman

hello .... niall quinn

available, kinda ... more experience than stan

& same record in competitive games: 0%

**NeilMcD** · 09/10/2006, 9:50 AM

Kerr was very tactically aware and I think even the most anti Kerr people would say we would never concede 5 goals against a team like Cypurs. I think there are some people living in la la land who think we are world beaters and others who are doom and gloom merchants. I think the reality is in the middle. I have been saying for some time on this board that Scotland had decent players and with a decent manager they would get decent results. I think the same about ourselves. Walter Smith is a good manager who knows how to set up a team at this level. What needs to be done, how to motivate the players etc. They have Ally Mc Coist as their Cheerleader we went an appointed our cheerleader as manager. Staunton has less tactical awareness than Mc Coist does and Mc Coist is only there to gee the team up before games etc.

I think we have some very average players but what is worse is that we have some really good players who are not playing for us at the moment and have not done for a while. I am often amazed how quickly a good manager can get a team that appears to be going nowhere playing well. That is through decent work on the training pitch. It appears to me that no work was done on the training pitch last week that was any benefit to the team whatsover.

**cavan_fan** · 09/10/2006, 9:55 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Would I prefer Kerr to Stan? Yes.

I'm going to get tendonitis my knee is jerking so much this morning!

You could replace the name Kerr in that sentence with almost anyone else involved in the world of fottball and the answer would be yes. Can't think of anyone managing in the Eircom League, Premiership etc that I wouldnt have instead of Stan

**tetsujin1979** · 09/10/2006, 10:00 AM

I'd prefer Kerr to Stan too, but I still wouldn't have Kerr back. Kerr is a better manager, that's been proven over the last 4 games, but his tenure was still a step back after McCarthy that's turned into a sharp drop in quality.

**shakermaker1982** · 09/10/2006, 10:05 AM

Big Sam - if we can't win fairly then at least he can throw a tenner to the ref at half time.

**galwayhoop** · 09/10/2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

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Curbishley - Available, successful, perhaps lacking a bit in passion, but good all round
I'M SURE HE WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO MANAGE A TEAM FULL OF CHAMPIONSHIP AND MID TABLE PREMIERSHIP PRE-MADONNA'S

Big Sam - Maybe available soon, gritty, gets the best out of players, ideal i would say

Louis Van Gaal - At AZ Alkmaar, we would be a bigger fish surely and he didn't get his reputation for nothing
A BIGGER FISH - US? I DOUBT IT

Alex Mcleish - ex-Rangers, would annoy the Celtic shirt wearing saturday night rebel element of the fan base, a good thing imho. I think he could do well
A GOOD CHOICE - HIS TEAM FINISHED 3RD IN THE 2 HORSE RACE THAT IS THE SPL!!

Gary Megson - Could do well, available cheapish
WHY EXACTLY COULD HE DO WELL

Bryan Robson - Available, cheap, the sort of idiot they could go for
TRUE

David O'Leary - For the love of God no!!!

in fairness there is very little options and any eL managers won't get a shout either so i reckon the boys in merrion sq are just hoping for the draw on wed to stan by their man!

**galwayhoop** · 09/10/2006, 10:10 AM

and big sam hasn't got a notion of leaving bolton for us

**Bring Back Mick** · 09/10/2006, 10:49 AM

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ENOUGH SAID...........................................

Lets put an end to all this pussyfooting around, Kerr didn't have the respect of the players and they were all taking the pi$$ in the end, but hey we done well in the friendies , great stuff, well done lads !!!

Mick would put the fear of God into the squad they wouldn't know what hit them if they performed like they did on Saturday for him.

As for all the slagging JD is getting, at the moment I disagree. Maybe some fans don't appreciate the work he is putting in to raising the profile of all levels of football in Ireland , when he came over to the London RISSC he was very honest and open in discussions about Irish football....talking about the domestic and International scene..............

Ps : - Stan if you reading this, have a couple of decent central defenders, central midfielders and an out and out goalscorer available for Weds from the LONDON RISSC TEAM !!!

**harps1954** · 09/10/2006, 11:45 AM

According to some reports in the papers this morning, it says that the FAI are going to appoint Kenny Dalglish to Bobby Robson's job. Why don't they just sack Staunton, give Dalglish the Manager's job and f**k off with this International Consultations Role (or whatever it's called). Let Dalglish bring in someone like John Aldridge as his Assistant then. Dalglish and Aldridge would be a far better management team than that of Staunton/McDonald.

For me, Staunton has to go regardless of what happens on Wednesday night. I don't subscribe to this idea that Delaney must go as well as I do believe he is doing a good enough job. Remember, the FAI is not just about who is managing the Senior International Team.

Finally, I'd get rid of that Muppet Mick Byrne as well.