i got it from http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer...story49237.aspOriginally Posted by ifk101
They are also likely to be told that a minimum annual salary of €1m will be on offer to the boss.
The Irish Times are reporting that the Korean FA have said their next manager will be Mick McCarty or Houllier.
Even if neither of them would be your choice for Ireland manager the longer the FAI delay the process the smaller the pool of potential managers becomes. They need to get their finger out unless it's already a done deal with TV
"I'd rather play in front of a full house than an empty crowd" Johnny Giles
I actually dont believe that to be honest.
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For me it has to be Kenny Dalglish.
Get him!
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist thinks it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.
The FAI do love a game of charades.
Names are coming and names are going. One name persits.
i really hope that comment is laced with sarcasm...
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
be careful what you say about dagleish he might get one of gangster mates after you
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus...329327,00.html
as dodgy as tel he is and hasnt done anything in football of note since the mid 90s either
FAI chief embraces Houghton
Wednesday, 5 December 2007 22:57
Football Association of Ireland chief executive John Delaney has welcomed Ray Houghton as the third member of the three-man committee tasked with selecting Steve Staunton's successor.
Delaney also insists Terry Venables has not been consulted over the vacant manager's job.
Houghton joins Under-21 boss Don Givens and former Arsenal coach Don Howe.
The trio will recommend the next manager and Delaney hopes to have his man in place before the friendly with Brazil in Croke Park on 6 February.
'I'm pleased about it. I'm pleased with Don Givens and Don Howe and I'm pleased that Ray has joined that team,' Delaney said in Dublin at the official launch of the FAI's new headquarters at the National Sports Campus.
'I'm very pleased about it and the process has now moved on. The guys will go about interviewing whoever is in their plans and their sights and I'm sure they will get about that over the coming weeks.
'I am pretty certain in my own mind that they will come back with one name. It's a matter of the chairperson of the committee of three explaining the decision behind the person they are going to recommend and I couldn't see a circumstance where that couldn't be ratified.
'It's preferable for me as chief executive that we would have a manager in place for the Brazil game, that's preferable, but I think everybody understands this time round we have got to get the right appointment and I think everyone understands that.'
Delaney was happy to speak out on the speculation that has occurred over the past month since the process began.
'I think there has been a lot of speculation and there also has been a lot of inaccuracies, it has to be accepted, over the last period,' he said.
'We've tried to go about it quietly and privately. We've met a number of people and I'm pleased that the team is now the one that we set out to put in place the night that Stephen Staunton was no longer manager of Ireland.
'We set out a process. The process is in place and we never deviated from it. There was a lot of inaccuracies and I can speak about it now because I've handed over the process if you like.
'There was never an intention to meet anyone down in South Africa and there was never any intention to meet anyone in relation to the vacant manager's job. Terry Venables was never spoken to by the FAI or by myself.'
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Where is Terry Venables on the poll ?
It's ridiculous to exclude him & undermines the results.
Ok, fair enough
Come on outta that. Do you really think the advisers would play any part if the someone was picked for the job already. Thats one big charade!
McDonnell again in today's Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...q-1239003.html
One thing that would strike me about McDonnell's articles is that he's so vested in making sure Venables does not get the job (no bad thing) is that he's written very little about the other candidates.The problem for Delaney is that there are certain candidates who he will be inextricably linked with if appointed and that could pose difficulties for him should they prove to be the wrong choice. And yes, that means Terry Venables
Lets look at all our recent previous managers. Big Jack aside, how many of them had done anything before they came to us? And what have many of them done since they left us? Why, all of a sudden, do we think we should be getting someone "World Class".
Roy Hodgson does seem to be the best of what's been talked about, but I have just one question about him. Someone mentioned that his last three management jobs have been Finland, UAE and some team in Norway. Why, if he is such a great manager/coach, are these the teams he has managed. Why has he never managed the English team? If he was such a great manager/coach, why did he not get the England job ahead of Steve McClaren? Why has he never managed one of the other "bigger nations". And, when manager of Blackburn, he made a bit of a balls at that.
Anyhow, look where all our previous managers have come from:
Eoin Hand - combined the role of International Manager with that of managing Limerick.
Jack Charlton - had limit success with quite a number of teams in England, and he wasn't even the FAI's first choice. Both Bob Paisley and John Giles were favourites ahead of Jack, but they made a balls of the selection process.
Mick McCarthy - only job prior to the Ireland one was Millwall in what is now known as the Championship. Joe Kinnear was favourite to get the job at the time and McCarthy received the job on a split decision.
Brian Kerr - From the FAI's youth ranks, via St. Pat's. Again, got it on a split decision with John Delaney voting against him in favour of Bryan Robson.
Stephen Staunton - Bottle carrier with Walsall was his only experience of the dugout outside of playing.
So, in the past, our managers haven't exactly had a great track record or a great CV. What's to make people think that it will be any different this time.
Would O'Leary not be better than any/most of the above. At least he done something of note at both Leeds and Villa. Or what about Venables. At least he was managing / coaching at some capacity at International level in the last ten years. The same with Hodgson - he has been managing at International level at some level up until recently. Or Dalglish. He hasn't been doing much for the past ten years, but at least he has a CV that is better than most if not all of our previous six managers.
I don't know who we'll end up with, but if the past six appointments are anything to go by, god only knows who we could get. To tell you the truth, I'd take any one from O'Leary, Venables, Hodgson or Dalglish at this stage. But we'll probably end up with someone like Kenny Cunningham or Bryan Robson!!
The three 'kingmakers' are now likely to meet tomorrow to discuss the logistics of the interview process.
Givens expects to meet between 12 and 16 candidates but denied their was a cut-off time with which potential candidates must signal their interest.
"Well if it gets near the end of January and Jose Mourinho phones then we'll have to see him," he joked.
"But we'll start with the people who have expressed an interest in the job."
When asked if the panel would be in sole charge of the selection process, Givens was less emphatic than Delaney but suggested the FAI would ultimately ratify their candidate.
"I cant speak for the FAI but having gone off an interviewed everyone I'd be surprised if they say 'no, we don't want that'," he said.
Starting with people who have expressed an interest? That's not headhunting, that's just interviewing.
Would that include Coppell or Hodgson?
Will they approach people to see if they're interested?
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The problem with a panel is that the need for consensus will drive a conservative decision. Much less likely to get a bold, imaginative appointment.
Ideally leave to one person, as long as its not whoever choose Stan.
But who chooses that person, it really is a no win situation with these things unless you get the right man, there is no perfect process and to be honest there has been an awful lot of speculation in relation to this and an awful lot of bull****. The standard fo journalism has been terrible. Only Malone, McDonnell Mackey have been pretty good on this. Not too much hyperbole and good rational debate. The Sunday papers are really terrible.
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The real problem of course is that whenever someone eventually is appointed by whatever process, there will be those on here and elsewhere who won't agree with the choice or the method of selection.
Delaney will be criticised for either getting involved or not getting involved. The Board of Management will be criticised for either accepting or not accepting the recommendation of the selection panel or for being too easily influenced by Delaney and if in 2 years time we have not qualified to the WCF the 'I told you so' brigade will be out in force, regardless of who is appointed.
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
I agree, the more I read the more nervous I get!
For the Irish fan ignorance is bliss. However bad your imagination can be, I'm sure it's not as bad as the speculation we have been subjected to.
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