New Irish manager

**backstothewall** · 23/10/2007, 6:34 PM

100% agreed. And in my opinion he will also have to have Premiership managerial experience, and knowledge of the lower divisions in England, as lets face it, thats where the nucleus of our side comes from.

Completely agreed with this...

I would like George Graham personally. He would command the respect of the players, has a great managerial record and seems to have come away relatively unscathed from all that bung stuff a few years ago.

Houllier would be another one, but for me he is mentally weak as a man, and I'm not sure we need someone like that.

O'Leary might be interesting. He had Leeds and Villa playing good football while he was at those clubs and you can't knock his pedigree as a player. Plus, he won't have a transfer budget to play with to put his employers out of business. But can I handle the smarm??........No!

...so why then name 2 guys who have never managed an english club outside the top flight, and one who hasn't since 1986??

Someone who has been succesful at premiership and championship level is ideal for us. People like Jewell, Souness, Gregory, and Coppell fit the bill, perhaps Peter Reid, Micky Adams, Iain Dowie or Peter Taylor as well.

Roy Hodgson could come into consideration given his record with the Swiss

If the FAI decide they want to go for a continental, Didier Deschamps is an interesting punt at 40/1 on Paddy Power. He is available.

**NeilMcD** · 23/10/2007, 6:57 PM

Whats wrong with Beenhakker or Roy Hodgson , these guys are proven at international level and proven with having to coach players once every three months. A different skill to having the players day in day out. To me its guys like these that are the outstanding candidates. Van Gaal out of your list does have that experience. I like Coppell not so sure about Jewell though as I think he could be a bit limited tactically at International level.

**mypost** · 23/10/2007, 7:01 PM

O'Leary I wouldn't mind. He brought Leeds to the UEFA semi-final, the CL semi-final, (thanks to Houllier's king size screw up the year before

) and brought Villa from relegation candidates to within reach of the UEFA Cup in his first season there.

As for Jewell, forget it. This "coach" brought Bradford to the brink of the drop in their first season up, then brought Wigan to the brink of the drop last year, despite having loads to spend. Wouldn't hang around for a whole campaign either, before some PL club waves a few ��'s in his eyes.

**backstothewall** · 23/10/2007, 7:11 PM

As for Jewell, forget it. This "coach" brought Bradford to the brink of the drop in their first season up, then brought Wigan to the brink of the drop last year, despite having loads to spend.

Getting Bradford to the premiership was little short of a miricle. Keeping them there was nothing short. Wigans first season was a hell of an achievment, and last season, the dificult second season, wasn't exactly easy after losing Jimmy Bullard, Chimbonda, Henchoz and Roberts

**Noelys Guitar** · 23/10/2007, 7:32 PM

Liam Brady just said he would be interested in the job but quoted himself at 200/1. He nominated Ron Atkinson!

**shakermaker1982** · 23/10/2007, 7:41 PM

Big Ron

I'd still prefer him over O'Leary and that is saying something.

I keep checking on here waiting to see "OFFICIAL - STAN is sacked". If it's not announced by 9 then they are clearly having a few beers (Stan's buying) watching Man Utd-Kiev!!!

**CollegeTillIDie** · 23/10/2007, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by Scram

Any comments re. Foppe de Haan?

Get realistic, we will not get any current Premiership/ major league manager or Gus Hiddink!!

Foppe De Haan was coach of Herenveen for years. Had links with UCD, he knew the late Dr. Tony O'Neill
He used to come over during International weeks and pass on some knowledge to our coaches and players, and about a decade ago one of our then players, Declan Fitzgerald, went over for a trial.
He's an excellent coach but in his mid 60's. He retired from the Heerenveen gig.

**eirebhoy** · 23/10/2007, 10:02 PM

Richie Sadlier said on Prime Time that he spoke to a few people who played under O'Leary and they didn't have a high opinion of him as a manager. To be honest, I never was a fan of O'Leary and now I really hope he doesn't get it.

**Colbert Report** · 23/10/2007, 10:03 PM

John Sheridan has just been announced as the new Ireland manager.

That's what I want to hear tonight.

**NeilMcD** · 23/10/2007, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Reading between the lines there, McCarthy was none too pleased with Cascarino for having the balls to say it like it is.

Not just Cascarino, but Brady, Whelan as well.

Houghton has been talking rubbish on the matter though.

**Schlooooomp** · 23/10/2007, 10:28 PM

Sadlier didn't sit on the fence with his comments. Staunton wouldn't get to manage 11 year olds. Knifed O'Leary.

**Torn-Ado** · 23/10/2007, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

I wonder who Sadlier spoke to!! Harte by any chance?! Did anyone read that article in the Sunday Indo? Some journo said that one of the Ireland squad "with experience outside the Premiership" thought Staunton was the worst manager he had ever played for. I bet Harte is delighted he spoke to that muppet.

Harte! Thats who it was!

It was wrecking my head trying to think of a player "with experience outside the Premiership" and the only one I could think of was Keane, which didn't add up.

**Noelys Guitar** · 23/10/2007, 10:37 PM

Berhard O'Byrne talked a lot of sense. Hand spoke his usual nonsense.

**Armando** · 23/10/2007, 10:42 PM

We have plenty of players with experience outside the Premiership....have none of you ever heard of the Championship and League One

.

**NeilMcD** · 23/10/2007, 11:08 PM

Imagine Don Givens got the job, I see he is a 14/1. I

**NeilMcD** · 23/10/2007, 11:11 PM

I think I said something similar when I heard the news that Staunton got it. I remember thinking that day, how could they give a guy who has never manged at any level and is as articulate as an Uranutang with a sweet left foot and and love of baseball hats could get the job but he did.

**Noelys Guitar** · 23/10/2007, 11:17 PM

What will be Delaney's thinking right now? Got to get myself out of the spotlight. I reckon a quick appointment so that means someone out of work. Someone who will keep the media happy.

**geysir** · 23/10/2007, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

Harte! Thats who it was!

It was wrecking my head trying to think of a player "with experience outside the Premiership" and the only one I could think of was Keane, which didn't add up.

I don't think Harte was ever called up to the squad, not that the Journalist would register that minor detail.

**craig7042** · 23/10/2007, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by reder

Souness has ruled himself out of the Bolton job. Odds are fairly short on him for irish job. Could very well be the man. O' Leary is very quiet. Would have expected him to be on every radio station and tv broadcast if he was interested.

I thought that too when Souness did that today.... has he been approached do you think? He's my first choice... Venables second...

**craig7042** · 23/10/2007, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by youngirish

Why must the manager be an ex-top player? Why must he above all else be convincing with the media? These are two of the most ridiculous statments I've seen for a while though not as ridiculous as a recommendation of Souness for the job - one of the worst managers to try his hand in the Premiership. How he kept on picking up jobs was always a mystery to me.

My point was explained elsewhere.... Of course you dont need to be an ex-top player. Of course you dont need to be convincing with the media...

BUT...

So much of the criticism of Stan to me was based on exactly those two complaints.. How many times did people say to me - "He doesnt talk like a manager" "He's just so boring" "he doesnt inspire me" What a load of rubbish, but to me- thats what people seem to look at. Clearly the media didnt like his manner with them. And secondly Brian Kerr was definately prejudiced against in the media and by fans because he wasnt a top quality player in the past.

So what I'm saying is a bit tongue in cheek... I actually supported Stan throughout and I think people are hypocritical with the suggestions they are making. Very few of these names would survive the sort of abuse Stan got. Any weakness will be jumped on.... So - I think he's going to have to be brilliant in the media and a top player and will have to have exceptional management experience...