New Irish manager

**btid1** · 18/10/2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ozymandias

just on the myth that we are getting managers on the cheap...staunton is on �400K + and Robson �250k a year.....that is not exactly cheap.....hiidink is on less than staunton at russia...

WRONG!!

Hiddink's wages are being paid by Roman Abramovich and are far in excess of �650k.

Only one man for the job.......Paul Jewell.

**Ozymandias** · 18/10/2007, 10:57 AM

ya..he is on for a big bonus if he qualifies them..his basic is small enough........400k is what was reported a while back..i was gobsmacked by it...he will effectively get 0ver 2 million dollars ia year f he qualifies them.......karl bruckner is on something tiny all together

**Stuttgart88** · 18/10/2007, 10:59 AM

Jewell, O'Leary, Bruce are about the level we can expect. Whowever doesn't get the Bolton job will be in the frame.

Maybe there's someone from left field, a bit like Wim Janssen who came in without much fanfare at Celtic.

I swa Kenny Cunningham on TV last night. I reckon he could be a good manager in due course if he gets a decent club job and would be the type of person I'd like around the team. Intelligent & articulate for a start.

**paul_oshea** · 18/10/2007, 11:01 AM

jewell did little at wigan, they are getting on the same now as they were last year. Oleary is crap and i could not handle his excuses, i really dont want him, and he would only be "ready" this time to manage us cos no one else will touch him with a barge pole. NO MORETHICK PEOPLE FOR MANAGER, intelligence goes along with in management. Bruce is decent enough but im still not sure he is the right candidate.

**Noelys Guitar** · 18/10/2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

jewell did little at wigan, they are getting on the same now as they were last year. Oleary is crap and i could not handle his excuses, i really dont want him, and he would only be "ready" this time to manage us cos no one else will touch him with a barge pole. NO MORETHICK PEOPLE FOR MANAGER, intelligence goes along with in management. Bruce is decent enough but im still not sure he is the right candidate.

No O'Dreary please. I just can't handle him and don't believe he can inspire this group of players. Make it open and advertise the job. Get the best 3 in for interviews. And treat them with respect and actually listen to what they have to say. No pre-conceived ideas and no appointing someone on hunches.

**Stuttgart88** · 18/10/2007, 11:23 AM

Ask the Drumaville syndicate to offer EUR 1 million upon qualification.

**R�iteoir** · 18/10/2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

In all fairness shut the **** up. Would you let League One managers have input into the England job???

If our aim is to get in an international manager who needs advice from Eircom League flunkies we may give up completely.

Better an eL manager than a pensioner who last managed any form of team three years previously and spent (regretfully) more time in hospital than he did out on the training field doing what the FAI paid him to do...

Methinks you should go back to gawping at a big screen showing over paid prima donnas getting embarrased by more minnow nations in the charade of a World Cup Qualification Campaign overseen by a bloke who had no coaching experience whatsoever prior to being thrown in at the top level.

I'll certainly sleep soundly tonight knowing the full story surrounding this whole sorry debacle

**mackannovic** · 18/10/2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Better an eL manager than a pensioner who last managed any form of team three years previously and spent (regretfully) more time in hospital than he did out on the training field doing what the FAI paid him to do...

Methinks you should go back to gawping at a big screen showing over paid prima donnas getting embarrased by more minnow nations in the charade of a World Cup Qualification Campaign overseen by a bloke who had no coaching experience whatsoever prior to being thrown in at the top level.

I'll certainly sleep soundly tonight knowing the full story surrounding this whole sorry debacle

The whole idea of employing a manager who needs an advisor on how to do his job is lunacy.

**an_ceannaire** · 18/10/2007, 11:33 AM

i know it wont happen....but just imagine....imagine if Roy took it!!! What it would do for football in Ireland. Oh God ....we can dream....sigh

**Drumcondra 69er** · 18/10/2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

Aldridge is the definition of rinky dink

Really? Got a minnow like Tranmere to a major cup final. Kept them challenging a a higher level then they're traditionally at for years on a shoestring till his best players were sold from under him. Had an exceptional record in cup football against Premier League teams.

I don't think he's the answer now and he's certainly not 'world class' but his club record was similar to, and in fact superior to Sanchez's when he got the NI job and look how well he did.

Aldridge was the ideal candidate last time out when the FAI wanted to do it on the cheap, they won't get away with doing it that way now after the Staunton debacle.

**Dodge** · 18/10/2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

One who does menial or trivial work (like managing a team of players far below international standard); a drudge.

I guarentee you EVERY manager in the LOI is better than the current Irish boss.

**R�iteoir** · 18/10/2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

The whole idea of employing a manager who needs an advisor on how to do his job is lunacy.

Actually - something struck me just now - going back to your initial point/rant/etc.

Would you let League One managers have input into the England job???

No - the FAI actually made him the manager of the International side...

**mackannovic** · 18/10/2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I guarentee you EVERY manager in the LOI is better than the current Irish boss.

I don't disagree but I wouldn't want any of them involved in the national team just as I don't want the current setup to be involved any further.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 18/10/2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

i know it wont happen....but just imagine....imagine if Roy took it!!! What it would do for football in Ireland. Oh God ....we can dream....sigh

Cheque book manager and currently faling despite spending �50m on players. Totally unproven and a ludicrous suggestion at present.

**R�iteoir** · 18/10/2007, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I guarentee you EVERY manager in the LOI is better than the current Irish boss.

Including Gareth Farrelly...

**an_ceannaire** · 18/10/2007, 11:42 AM

He wasnt a cheque book manager when he took a group of players far inferior to the current Irish team from the bottom of the Champ and won it! The only player he brought in who he consistently stuck with was Ross Wallace and possibly Yorkie. He will consolidate them in the PL this year. Agreed he is not good with the cash, but thats not a problem with IRELAND! The man is THEEE man motivator, you only have to listen to the Mackems players talk about being in awe of him. He took a very poor squad and made them wwaayyy better than the sum of their parts. Birmingham and WBA were far stronger personnell wise.
Imagine what he could do with a talented team of Irish boys who prob grew up idolising him.
I know he wont touch it with a barge pole, but by God, I think he would be the perfect man for the job in every way.
And imagine the profile football would return to in the press and national interest again!

**Dodge** · 18/10/2007, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by mackannovic

I don't disagree but I wouldn't want any of them involved in the national team just as I don't want the current setup to be involved any further.

YOu have to be realistic. The FAI can't afford much better. The least they should do is get somebody who's managed at some level.

As has been pointed out, if there was a stroger league here we may have more funds available

**mackannovic** · 18/10/2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

YOu have to be realistic. The FAI can't afford much better. The least they should do is get somebody who's managed at some level.

As has been pointed out, if there was a stroger league here we may have more funds available

We tried the Eircom League route with Kerr and we all saw what happened there. If we stopped wasting money on rinky dink managers we'd have more funds available.

**Piltownpossy** · 18/10/2007, 11:55 AM

My own take on it is that last time round - Venables should have got the job. See the football England were playing during his reign, culminating in the rout against Holland. Reading Fowlers book about that time, Venables came across as a man he knew both his stuff and how to create that team ethic.

This time round? How about Souness?

**Drumcondra 69er** · 18/10/2007, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

He wasnt a cheque book manager when he took a group of players far inferior to the current Irish team from the bottom of the Champ and won it! The only player he brought in who he consistently stuck with was Ross Wallace and possibly Yorkie. He will consolidate them in the PL this year. Agreed he is not good with the cash, but thats not a problem with IRELAND! The man is THEEE man motivator, you only have to listen to the Mackems players talk about being in awe of him. He took a very poor squad and made them wwaayyy better than the sum of their parts. Birmingham and WBA were far stronger personnell wise.
Imagine what he could do with a talented team of Irish boys who prob grew up idolising him.
I know he wont touch it with a barge pole, but by God, I think he would be the perfect man for the job in every way.
And imagine the profile football would return to in the press and national interest again!

No offence but Keane spent got more backing and had a higher net spend then anyone in the Championship last season bar Derby I think. he did a good job turning them round but a �6m stg spend on players at very high wages is a hell of a lot for that level, Connolly, Edwards and Stokes all cost between 1 and 2m and had he various other signing in and around 500k - 1m.

McCarthy did a better job winning that league with sod all cash much as it sticks in people's craws. keane may well prove to be a good manager in future but he's way to inexperienced and tactically naive right now.

And you're right he wouldn't go near it.