QuoteEnd of the world as we know it....Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
It's still there for me.
/ ah you edited your post.
End of the world as we know it....
"Not the end of the world" as per the man from delmonte.
We are the Galway Boys Stand up and make some noise"
Does HE want the job?...........at least he would say YES
Tact is for people who are not witty enough to be sarcastic
I think even when a new manager is appointed, this won't be the last we hear of this saga. There has been nothing straightforward about the entire process and I don't think putting it down to "it's just the FAI" really covers it.
For a start, it's clear that someone within the FAI is responsible for a lot of leaks that have stirred up trouble and made this a lot more difficult than it should be.
Houllier dismissed speculation linking him with the job, then apparently accepted it, then suddenly it was off - he wouldn't even answer the phone.
Sounness (not that I'd want him) was keen on the position but seemed to smell something funny going on and withdrew his name from the process very early on.
Given how huge this Trappatoni story has been, the fact that the original claims baffled both the man himself and Given, and that he still says he has had no direct contact - is baffling.
Venables has been too quiet on the whole thing. We haven't heard anything from him since (again, incredibly) repeatedly denying any contact from the FAI whatsoever - and back then we were told by all that he was a sure thing.
Okay, we know the board are divided on Venables, but there has to be more to it than that. Some ask why he would even still keep his name in the race this long - given that most people with a shred of pride or dignity would have said "okay, enough is enough" long ago. The only answer I can think of is that the pay packet is the priority.
Davies turned down the opportunity to be interviewed for the managerial position of his own country because he wouldn't be given control over the u-21s as well - yet he is being interviewed by our own hapless, ego-maniac of an u-21 manager and when it has been very publicly narrowed down to "Trapp or Venables." I mean what the hell?
There are so many other things you could add to the list (like the various meetings and 'imminent announcements') as the farce continues. I think there's at least a book or a good documentary to be made out of it yet!
But the thing I find most incredible is that from the start, something like 95% percent of the fans were vehemently opposed to the idea of Venables being appointed...and now, well past the 100 day mark, a lot of us seem to have been gradually worn down by the whole thing to the point where we've come around ('bamboozled', if you will) to think that Venables actually wouldn't be so bad.
Last edited by JimmyP; 08/02/2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason: correction
Good summary.
I can accept Venables as a leading candidate after the search for the better or equal candidates has been exhausted.
I use to be good at those staring games
Who's come around to this idea that Venables would no be so bad? I certainly have not, I'd rather see someone decent coming in a month before the Georgia game than Venables now
No, nor have I. But a lot have. Sorry, I didn't literally mean "all"; I've edited it.
Yeah I know what you mean, but the point is that rather than having conducted an exhaustive search, matters have been fumbled on more than one occasion and it seems to have cost us candidates who were otherwise a possibility.
I've thought all along that if the FAI were presented with anyone other than Terry Venables as our new manager, then it wouldn't be down to any farcical interview process, but rather down to dumb luck - i.e., that the panel stumbled across someone suitable while deliberating over the (previously interviewed) candidates who remained unemployed as the process drew to a close.
While now , despite the media hailing Trapattoni as "the saviour of Irish football" (© Eamon Dunphy) I feel that the panel, despite desperate attempts, have NOT managed to fortuitiously locate 'mystery candidate X' , and are now depressingly stuck with Venables, who is apparently the only qualified manager who wants the job. Throwing the speculation dice, I think that this is probably unacceptable to a sizeable section of the FAI board.
This is why , when Delaney wanted to unveil a marquee name at last Sunday's Lovely Girls competition in Citywest, Givens felt the need to circle the wagons and make a big announcement.
The big announcement was "We have no manager. We need more time".
More time, it seems, to locate the Man who is plan B : The Anti-Venables.
Hence more interviews. Hence people like Billy Davies being drawn into this quagmire.
The issue with this 'interview panel' is not the length of time they are taking. It's the fact that it's seemingly led by a man who has no idea what to do, accompanied by two men who are allowing him to do it.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
This man makes a LOT of sense..............if the FAI fcuk up on Trappatoni.........GIVE THE JOB TO MICK WALLACE!
http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/index....rapattoni.html
Wexford Youths FC manager and owner, Mick Wallace, has given his backing to Giovanni Trapattoni to take over as the new Republic of Ireland manager.
Italian enthusiast Wallace has been calling for the FAI to bring in a European coach since Steve Staunton's acrimonious departure last year, and he feels that if the Italian legend is available and interested in the position that the FAI would be very foolish to appoint the other leading candidate, Terry Venables, instead of the former Ac Milan and Juventus manager.
"I'd like to see Trapattoni get it - he wouldn't be my first choice but he's a lot better than any other names from across the water," Wallace said.
"If it's between Trapattoni and Venables, well there's no contest really. Trapattoni's appetite is greater than Venables's - he's still managing a team for a start - and I don't think Venables has the appetite required for the job. People question Trapattonis age but he's only three years older than Venables.
"The Irish players have come out in favour of Venables because they're familiar with him or know players he has coached, but they don't know anyone who has worked with Trapattoni, so can't really form an opinion on him. People shouldn't listen to the players however as it's not their concern; they should play were there told and take direction from the manager and not have a say in his selection.
"There's no doubt that Venables was good, but he doesn't have the appetite for the Irish job now and he was a disaster alongside McClaren for England. Trapattoni is past his best as well but if he gets the job he would be a great appointment as he's a winner.
"There's no point comparing any manager to the top Italians, as they're on a different level. The language factor shouldn't make a major difference - it would be a factor and it would be better if he could speak English, so who he has assisting him would be important, but he won the Portuguese league without speaking that language.
"People say that Trapattoni wasn't successful as an international manager, but at a stage in the 2002 World Cup they were the favourites and Italy were robbed against South Korea. The Ecuadorian referee for that match was banned for life six-months later in relation to a scandal around match fixing in his homeland. In 2004, Italy were unbeaten in their group in the European Championships and are the only team ever to record five points and not get out of their group.
"Trapattoni is also accused of being too conservative, but Italy and Germany are the two most successful European sides and regularly accused of being too cautious, so conservatism yields results and obviously works," Wallace said.
Everyone thinks Delaney's vague comments in todays Star relate to Trapp's.
FAI chief executive John Delaney has indicated that the appointment of the next Republic of Ireland manager may not be finalised until the summer.
The name that popped into my head was Coppell's and not Trapp's. Perhaps Coppell has gotten back in touch with the amigo's and now wants the job.
Guys,
First post....go easy on me! I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere on foot...but getting back to the thread title "Next Ireland Manager"...If TV is offered the post, people who know him are going to ask him, why did you wait around for months waiting on the FAI to see if there was a better candidate than you...that's why I don't think it'll be TV. In relation to GT, the Austrian league finishes in April so there's no issue at all in the FAI getting him signing the contact and starting his job in May, it's whether he wants to do it or not, people talk about his age, we gotta play that to our advantage, if Don also tells him there's a nice holiday home in Belmullet as welll overlooking the coast waiting for him...how can he say no?!
First of all, welcome aboard,
Second
Why would they offer him a holiday home in mayo when they could offer him one in kerry
Venables:
"I'm still in the race and I still want the job and the FAI know that. Anyone who says I would not be fully committed to the job is talking absolute nonsense."
From the SIndo.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0210/fai.html
Irish Businessman willing to put €1m for new manager.
Marge: Homer, the plant called. They said if you don't show up tomorrow don't bother showing up on Monday.
Homer: Woo-hoo. Four-day weekend
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Trappattoni+Tardelli+Brady=Holy Trinity of Irish Football
$$$$$$$$
"when the seagulls follow the trawler,
it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea" Ooh Ahh
It's got to be Mick Wallace who's behind this offer.
thats what i assumed too, cos he wants trapatoni
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
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