a scrappy 1-0 will do nicely , then its time to put the whole bank on the wednesday game which if we dont win we are jiggered
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yea but if we win and play like total sh!t, it doesn't do much for the belief anyway. in fact it might have more of a negative, 'paper over the cracks' effect, like cyprus away last time round. god that was awful, i never want to watch that dreck again. if it means getting thumped by a fourth or fifth tier team to wake us up and rejuvenate us in the long-term, so be it.
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Jay Tabb wasn't in the training camp or previous squads. Nor was Alan Quinn? Or Alan Lee. Or Kevin Foley.Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Sorry, don't buy that explanation at all. Stan is clearly buying time. I hate this notion of planning for four years from now - the problem is, it's easy to keep doing that and letting slip the fact that we're not doing well in the here and now. We should be playing the best players we can now to at the very worst boost our ranking ahead of the 2010 World Cup. No use picking inexperienced players now and being fifth seeds in 2010 when we could play some players who won't be around for 2010 but who could help us to third seeds then.
Foley and Tabb were on the bench for the game against Chile.
yea i was thinking that too but didn't know if it was true. more of a kick in the goolies for carsely as he's actually played for us a bit! i even forgive him for rolling around in the box breast-feeding the ball against turkey
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Fair enough. Still don't agree with Stan's logic though.
Did the U21s have a game around that time, hence explaining Tabb & Foley's absence? They beat Azerbaijan in Kilkenny on 18/5. Not sure what date the senior squad set out for Portugal but the Chile match was on 24th so I reckon they set off around the same time as the U21s were playing. Maybe he thought that after a tough away trip and the return match that the U21s had done enough?
Also, it's not as if Staunton has had 2 or 3 withdrawals, I think he's had around 8 or 9, so he has to pick a few wildcards. And maybe one or more of the Portugal 30 didn't impress him?
In the meantime anyway, I think Foley has shown better form than Stephen Kelly who has yet to impress in his brief outings in green. I think Alan Lee was injured at the end of the season but can't confirm. Quinn's absence I can't explain as I've always been an admirer.
I don't think he's bringing inexperienced players along now with a view to them starting - some are clearly there for the experience & to make up the numbers. Better than having experienced guys making up the numbers, no? What's the long term benefit of that?
With the exception of Carsley, I'd like to know who he left at home that could realistically be in the match day 16 or 17 or whatever. McPhail maybe?
Honestly Stu, I've an open mind, but Carsley excepted I've yet to hear a convincing argument that Staunton is squandering our current chances by keeping an eye on the future.
Tks eirebhoy, if I didn't respond in a such long winded manner I'd have noticed your reply!
the way things are looking at the moment, i'd take a scrappy 1 nil win with the goal in off the arse of anybody. 3 points is the main thing.
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agreed green army but heres hoping the players take this by the scruff of the neck and really go for it
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Im not gonna deny that 3 points is obviously the main thing BUT I think a good performance is also important because confidence in the squad will be low at the moment after 3 losses in a row and the bad press the team has been getting.
If we win 1-0 comfortably then I will be happy. the main thing for me is that at no stage in the game do i want to see the team drop off and play defensively with loads of men behind the ball.
3 points.
A lot of typically Irish lack of ambition (yeah,Yeah..."we're being realisitic" etc. ba!!s!)
Bad defenceFinnan, O'Brien, Dunne, Kilbane(possibly) - a bad defence?
Cyprus aren't a bad team?! Johnny Giles said today that we should beat them at least 2-0 and that not one of the Cypriots would get into the Ireland team. But then, what would he know? he should login here and hear the real expert views"A 1-0 by any means would be acceptable !!"...and be a great confidence booster for the Czech game!
A midfield of McGeady, S. Ireland, O'Shea and Duff Or (which I think more likely, but not sure if I agree with) McGeady, Miller, O'Shea and Duff,(O'Shea probably in a holding role in either make-up.) and Keane and Clinton upfront should be too much for the Cypriots to handle.
Of course I agree that Carlsley should be in the starting team...I think that is unanimous?
Apologies for the optimism....but I expect a 0-3
Last edited by Scram; 06/10/2006 at 11:27 PM.
Just curious: how manyif any, of the Cyprus team were beaten by Cork City earlier this season?
Just curious: how many, if any, of the Cyprus team were beaten by Cork City this season?
It seems we're all too optimistic. Staunton seems to think that a draw is acceptable. Seriously, I was willing to give him time to find his feet until I read that.
I'm no particular fan of Keane, but he would have eaten McCarthy alive for a comment like that, and rightly so.
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Currently Wales losing 1 - 4, and with hatfuls being scored against the minows, the term "acceptable" begins to take on a different meaning.
Its probably now 0 - 4 or 5!
just took a look at this to see how hopeful most were - were you saying 4 or 5 nil to the cypriots!
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