Racism in Irish Football

**Block G Raptor** · 04/10/2006, 10:30 AM

Remember a young lad in the shed donkeys years ago "monkey chanted" at wesley Charles and was very nearly lynched by the rest of the bohs supporters. have never heard any racist abuse at dalymount before or after. Unless you count the he's big he's black he's brutal at the back chant that we sang briefly for Jimmy Aggrey

**marley** · 04/10/2006, 10:36 AM

To Bohsmug My point is there was no monkey chants that night, not before or after the trouble which was started by Bohs casuals

**marley** · 04/10/2006, 10:39 AM

One last point. Why talk about racism that occured a number of years back. Some clubs like our own had problems with this but supporters won't stand for it now and anyone that decides to do it is immediately told where to get off

**NY Hoop** · 04/10/2006, 10:49 AM

Jason Sherlock racially abused in Dundalk while playing for UCD.

KOH

**passerrby** · 04/10/2006, 10:53 AM

we must remember that football appeals to the lowest common denominator as well as us superior folk so expect it its part of the baggage.

**NY Hoop** · 04/10/2006, 11:14 AM

Nonsense we shouldnt have to "expect it". There is no excuse for racism in any walk of life.

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/showracismtheredcard.php

KOH

**Lim till i die** · 04/10/2006, 11:19 AM

I think the fact that there's so little racism in Irish grounds says a lot about how unpopular the league is amongst ordinary Irish people, who colectively are Racist. IMHO if we ever did get big crowds going back to games you'd be looking at an Italy style situation at lots of clubs

**Magicme** · 04/10/2006, 11:25 AM

Well said NY Hoop. Totally agree. Passerby I see what you are saying but there is no way I will ever accept racist comments at CHP and have argued with people in the past over such attitudes.

**passerrby** · 04/10/2006, 11:39 AM

you misunderstand me I did not say accept i said expect that does not mean we have no responsibility to deal with it werever encountered

**Magicme** · 04/10/2006, 11:48 AM

Knowing you as I do Passerby I know u wouldnt tolerate it so I understand what ur sayin.

**Dodge** · 04/10/2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

I think the fact that there's so little racism in Irish grounds says a lot about how unpopular the league is amongst ordinary Irish people, who colectively are Racist. IMHO if we ever did get big crowds going back to games you'd be looking at an Italy style situation at lots of clubs

I wouldn't say that tbh. There's a lot of latent rascism (mainly due to ignorance) but its nowhere near as bad as most european countries. I'm not condoning it but Ireland is far from the most rascist coountry in europe

**Jaime** · 04/10/2006, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

rascist coountry

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**Lim till i die** · 04/10/2006, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I wouldn't say that tbh. There's a lot of latent rascism (mainly due to ignorance) but its nowhere near as bad as most european countries. I'm not condoning it but Ireland is far from the most rascist coountry in europe

Fair point but I definitely think if you had returns to regular crowds of say 7-8 thousand at games the whole thing would inevitably get politicised. Granted nowhere near to the extent of say Italy or Spain but there would definitely be a monkey chanting NF style element

**NY Hoop** · 04/10/2006, 1:20 PM

Nonsense. How can you say there would be a "monkey chanting NF style element" if we got an extra few thousand at the gate?

Maybe in limerick but it simply wouldnt happen in Dublin. And if by some chance it did it would be weeded out pretty quick.

IMO those days are gone. There are so many nationalities living here and they are by and large treated well.

KOH

**GuisaSaigon** · 04/10/2006, 1:24 PM

I've never really heard any rascist chants at a LOI game and I dont think it would be tolerated no matter how many supporters come to a game.
There are however a lot of rascist bigots on our little island, but i think the GAA will have more of them to worry about than us in a few years.

**bigmac** · 04/10/2006, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Fair point but I definitely think if you had returns to regular crowds of say 7-8 thousand at games the whole thing would inevitably get politicised. Granted nowhere near to the extent of say Italy or Spain but there would definitely be a monkey chanting NF style element

is it present at GAA games where the crowds would be of this magnitude and bigger? not aware of it - I think that a lot of the responsibility rests with the various supporters as well to let people around them know that that sort of behaviour is unacceptable.

**Lim till i die** · 04/10/2006, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by NY Hoop

IMO those days are gone. There are so many nationalities living here and they are by and large treated well.

Maybe too well if you listen to a lot of people on my estate

It's all pure speculation. If the economy was to hit a rough patch or anything down the line I genuinely see huge potential for racial strife. A lot of people are already pretty resentful about the whole situation....

Anyway, what if all the taxis drivers who once supported Rovers came back to games? Rampant Racism

**Lim till i die** · 04/10/2006, 1:27 PM

Originally Posted by bigmac

is it present at GAA games where the crowds would be of this magnitude and bigger? not aware of it

Completely different demographic at GAA games in fairness

**WeAreRovers** · 04/10/2006, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I wouldn't say that tbh. There's a lot of latent rascism (mainly due to ignorance) but its nowhere near as bad as most european countries. I'm not condoning it but Ireland is far from the most rascist coountry in europe

Spot on - apart from the subliminal reference to coons

Considering the changes in this country in recent years, we have, in real terms, very little racism. Despite the tabs banging on about immigrants, by and large there have been few problems.

Unlike the vast majority of EU states we have no far right political party. Check out the doc about the Brazilians in Gort tomorrow night on RT� One - you wouldn't see that sort of integration in the vast majority od european countries.

Don't believe the hype, theres sod all racism here. Having said that, I'll still be in the face of anyone racially abusing a player at a game.

KOH

**sonofstan** · 04/10/2006, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by northside hoop

I assume you mean on the pitch as they are unlikely to see a black face to abuse from one year to the next. The closest they get is Sherlock, who from what I gather recieve racial abuse from the culchies in blue who are supposed to be supporting him.

AFAIK the �'Hailp�n's were subjected to fairly vicuous stuff at club level in Cork