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    My interpretation is that Fester wants to be guarenteed a place in the match day squad. Which is fair enough. Whats the point in having someone like him in a 23man squad of a country aiming at WC2010 if he's not going to start? Also there's the little matter of his mentally handicapped child too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaZmO* View Post
    But isn't the problem that Carsley doesn't want to be just "considered" he wants to be guaranteed his place?
    I think his comments implied that he doesn't want to turn up for 3 days at a time and not even be on the bench, it's a contentious one but given our lack of depth in central midfield I think he would be in my first 16 everytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Thanks for posting the article. Can't disagree with any of it but I think Brady could have been more committal about who he'd pick in midfield.


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    yet you will probably go on to claim that I am somehow trying to wind you up
    but now you mention it I would play two of miller,douglas and quinn in central midfield.

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    All decent footballers if perhaps a little lightweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    With respect Mc Carthy and St Ledger are fringe players at best at the moment
    We've only got Dunne and O'Brien ahead of St Ledger, McShane and McCarthy- they can hardly be considered fringe players.

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    I reckon John O'Shea is our 3rd centre-back. Please can Fergie sell him to someone who'd like to play him there every week.

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    does anyone else reckon McCarthys no show at the end of season gathering last season through injury, despite having played every minute of leicesters run in, may be a factor in Stauntons continuing omission of him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    We've only got Dunne and O'Brien ahead of St Ledger, McShane and McCarthy- they can hardly be considered fringe players.

    They have about 2 caps between them so I think they are fringe players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    All decent footballers if perhaps a little lightweight.
    I would describe john o shea as fairly lightweight.
    maybe we need to cut our cloth to suit the players we have rather than try and find players to fit the way we play.

    and can the title of this thread be changed to something a bit less surreal...

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    I like the title of the thread to be honest. Yeah I agree O Shea is lightweight too. We dont have any really aggressive players which you need in central midfield.

    Keane said it on Sky the other weke all top players need to have a bit of the devil in them when talking about Paul Scholes. Souness says the same time and time again. I think this Irish team is too nice and lacks someone with a bit of bite and nastiness about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    does anyone else reckon McCarthys no show at the end of season gathering last season through injury, despite having played every minute of leicesters run in, may be a factor in Stauntons continuing omission of him?
    Interesting, the thought had crossed my mind actually. Yet, he allows Carr to go off and have a nice holiday before unretiring.

    I can't see any reason why McCarthy wouldn't have turned up if there was any way he was fit, can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    They have about 2 caps between them so I think they are fringe players.
    I think they have zero between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    I like the title of the thread to be honest. .
    Its sounds like a maths theorem
    thing I dont like about Staunton is he was brought in to change things and has changed very little.
    he has basically been given a blank cheque to experiment with a four year deal yet he doesnt.
    very frustrating. I think people would be a lot more sympathetic if he showed a bit more adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    They have about 2 caps between them so I think they are fringe players.
    So who are the back up players then?

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    Fringe, backup the same to me, to be honest. Did Mc Carthy ever play for us, I thought he did, but then again that was against Celtic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Interesting, the thought had crossed my mind actually. Yet, he allows Carr to go off and have a nice holiday before unretiring.

    I can't see any reason why McCarthy wouldn't have turned up if there was any way he was fit, can you?
    i think the Carr example is just another example of the at times mind boggling inconstencies if the Stan era, Stutt, different players seem to benefit or lose out, from seemingly very differing decision making processes.

    but as for McCarthy, no i cant see why he wouldnt have shown up if fit,or even if carrying a slight knock, but i cant shake the feeling that someting has gone on here, maybe Staunton was unconvinced of the players story and has decided to make an example of him.

    viewing him six months on, he certainly would appear to have the shortsighted stubborness to take such a view.

    it does seem strange to me that despite leicester having secured their place in the division several games before the end of the season, McCarthy played every game thereafter, and then cried of the Ireland gathering with an injury he had supposedy been playing through (ankle i think) for several games.strange.

    it would make sense,i think.

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    I like the Brady article.
    The important factors are the ones he mentioned about mental strength, confidence and not buckling what ever the circumstance. IMO these elements are vastly more important than the who plays where debate. Without Keane all those factors came more into play in various games and to good players like Kenny and Kav. Kerr couldn't understand what was happening.
    When the Germany game was finished, Stan made sure to fully congratulate every player individually as they came off the pitch. That's the body language that's of any importance to interpret post match after that defeat.

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    Does this mean that Carsley will be involved in the San Marino away game.

    I get the impression that Stan has realised that he should have picked him for the two next games, but being stubborn he wont bring him into the squad at the moment.

    http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?...I+availability

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    This was posted on chatsoccer.net earlier today:

    From the Everton website: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archiv...confusion.html

    Lee Carsley has cleared up the confusion regarding his current international situation.

    He has spoken to Republic of Ireland manager Stephen Staunton to inform him of his desire to represent Ireland in the future.

    Having previously been unavailable for international duty, Carsley made it known that he wanted to return when he recovered from injury.

    He is now fully fit and was disappointed to miss out on the latest Ireland squad named last week.

    But he has since spoken with the Republic boss to iron out his future.

    He told evertonTV: "I have spoken with him now. We got our wires crossed because he thought I wanted to do something else.

    "I have had a chat now and it is all sorted.

    "Hopefully when the next squad is announced I will be involved," he added.
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