Clare Oscar Traynor 2006/07

**Young Lad** · 15/11/2006, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by CousinSylDolan

Does Mike O'Malley not have this "steel" that you mention????

Thats only one player. My point is a number of "flare" players don't have the answers when they are subject to aggressive play in league games. Surely the oscar traynor is a step up in physicality again.

**First** · 15/11/2006, 1:33 PM

Who are the physical players you would like to see in the panel.

**CousinSylDolan** · 15/11/2006, 1:51 PM

Originally Posted by Young Lad

Thats only one player. My point is a number of "flare" players don't have the answers when they are subject to aggressive play in league games. Surely the oscar traynor is a step up in physicality again.

I can see what you are saying but I dont agree with you. I'm sure it is slightly more physical at OT level but I think there are 3/4 players in the squad who can mix it and that is enough.

I think adding any more players just cos they can "put the boot in" would weaken the squad, not improve it.

Just my opinion.

**First** · 16/11/2006, 9:32 AM

Hacker,
The way you put it you are making it out that someone has been hard done by. I think you , better than most, should understand the full story here.
Before anyone asks , no I will not be elaborating on the situation.

**Young Lad** · 16/11/2006, 9:44 AM

Originally Posted by First

Hacker,
The way you put it you are making it out that someone has been hard done by. I think you , better than most, should understand the full story here.
Before anyone asks , no I will not be elaborating on the situation.

Why did you make a post like that if you won't elaborate on it? Lets hear the full story!

**old git** · 16/11/2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by hacker

what do ya think of this..player gets asked to go training by eddie corry..goes to all wednesday sessions and the friday session that was on..is 1 of 15 players that goes to waterford for 1st game..STARTS and plays 70 mins..is told afterwards that he has done well..goes to next 2 sessions wit 9 players at both..then gets a call from eddie last friday to say thanks for helping us out but your not needed anymore.when asked why? eddie said he was told by SOMEONE he had to cut his squad down.looks to be only player cut from squad..so my points are..

1) who really picks team if manager is told to cut squad
2) how do you go from being in first 11 to being out of the squad
3) since when has squad been set to 20 players
4) how can people expect other players to respect a manager that does this
5) why have 3 oscar traynor friendlies been organised for same nites as 95% of clubs train..i.e. tuesdays and thursdays..
6)if a player tells manager that he wil not play this year.and goes to no training and then brings gear to 1st match and gets a game..even though he is a great player..is this right ???

before anyone has a go at me this is just my view..i happen to have great time for eddie corry and mikey burns..i just think that at the moment its a shambles...eddie apparently has a scout(hugh kelly) to watch players and tell eddie...but yet turns up to training and gives orders.. i hope they do well on sunday but wit 9 lads training and only 14 turning up for matches..it doesn't look good..

i looks tough on player ... but as far as i know can oscar traynor manager name a new squad for every match or add players if he wants to / or has he to stick to they same 20 players ...
same thing happens at local clubs players may play 2-3 games not miss training and their manager could still drop them
does it not make sense to have friendlies on same nights as players would normally train.. i know i would prefer it that way..

i would agree on last point if you cant / wont train with oscar traynor no matter how good you are you should not get a game at the expense of somebody how has been training

**smellyfeet** · 16/11/2006, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by hacker

what do ya think of this..player gets asked to go training by eddie corry..goes to all wednesday sessions and the friday session that was on..is 1 of 15 players that goes to waterford for 1st game..STARTS and plays 70 mins..is told afterwards that he has done well..goes to next 2 sessions wit 9 players at both..then gets a call from eddie last friday to say thanks for helping us out but your not needed anymore.when asked why? eddie said he was told by SOMEONE he had to cut his squad down.looks to be only player cut from squad..so my points are..

1) who really picks team if manager is told to cut squad
2) how do you go from being in first 11 to being out of the squad
3) since when has squad been set to 20 players
4) how can people expect other players to respect a manager that does this
5) why have 3 oscar traynor friendlies been organised for same nites as 95% of clubs train..i.e. tuesdays and thursdays..
6)if a player tells manager that he wil not play this year.and goes to no training and then brings gear to 1st match and gets a game..even though he is a great player..is this right ???

before anyone has a go at me this is just my view..i happen to have great time for eddie corry and mikey burns..i just think that at the moment its a shambles...eddie apparently has a scout(hugh kelly) to watch players and tell eddie...but yet turns up to training and gives orders.. i hope they do well on sunday but wit 9 lads training and only 14 turning up for matches..it doesn't look good..

Is this the same player that got dropped for his club recently.
SURELY if he is not getting a game with his club he wouldn't be up to Oscar Traynor. Maybe Slim Fitzgerald could take his place on the Oscar Traynor squad aswell

**First** · 16/11/2006, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Young Lad

Why did you make a post like that if you won't elaborate on it? Lets hear the full story!

As I have said there will not be a full story on this thread. At least not from me.! Rather than sending a PM to Hacker I just wanted him to know that there are others that know the full story. Having people posting their view of the matter and asking people what they think without the full facts is bull****. I have no time for people that take their blinkered view of the matter into an open forum questioning the integrity of a man's decision without the other side of the story been known.

**First** · 16/11/2006, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by smellyfeet

Is this the same player that got dropped for his club recently.
SURELY if he is not getting a game with his club he wouldn't be up to Oscar Traynor. Maybe Slim Fitzgerald could take his place on the Oscar Traynor squad aswell

Smellyfeet,
You have hit the nail on the head there. Hacker get your own club in order before you try and sort the "shambles" that you are making the Oscar Traynor set up to be.

**smellyfeet** · 16/11/2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by hacker

i never said i wanted to sort out the oscor traynor shambles i just gave my opinion on it..i would like you to send me a pm and explain why you think he was dropped..the reason he was dropped from olympic last week was a totally different reason and you can ask him that yourself..as for olympic being in a shambles i dont know how you can say that wit only 7 games gone..its a long season and if your to give up now , theres no point in turning up anymore..anyway i didnt post to talk about olympic if i heard it happen a player from another club i'd have same view on it about the way it was handled....

Well he was dropped and thats that...Surely they have their reasons for dropping him as you have yours. Don't see them asking questions on here about why he was dropped from Olympic and asking peoples opinion

**First** · 16/11/2006, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by hacker

i never said i wanted to sort out the oscor traynor shambles i just gave my opinion on it..i would like you to send me a pm and explain why you think he was dropped..the reason he was dropped from olympic last week was a totally different reason and you can ask him that yourself..as for olympic being in a shambles i dont know how you can say that wit only 7 games gone..its a long season and if your to give up now , theres no point in turning up anymore..anyway i didnt post to talk about olympic if i heard it happen a player from another club i'd have same view on it about the way it was handled....

I will not PM you, if you don't know the story then I will not be feeding you the information. Also if you bothered to read my post properly you would notice that I never mentioned your club being a shambles.It was you that referred to the Oscar Traynor set-up being a shambles.Your post was to try and get a reaction from the people who post on this thread, you have now got it so suck it up and move on.

**smellyfeet** · 16/11/2006, 1:11 PM

If Manager drops a player thats the managers choice, right!!!
If manager has a scout "HK" that turns up to training and gives a few orders, isn't that up to the manager whether he wants the scout "HK" to get involved
or not!!!!

Hacker i know it seems that you are having a hard time here but Eddie Corry is Oscar Traynor Boss and what he say's goes even if people like it or not....

Look at Steven Staunton.

**Young Lad** · 16/11/2006, 1:41 PM

Originally Posted by First

As I have said there will not be a full story on this thread. At least not from me.! Rather than sending a PM to Hacker I just wanted him to know that there are others that know the full story. Having people posting their view of the matter and asking people what they think without the full facts is bull****. I have no time for people that take their blinkered view of the matter into an open forum questioning the integrity of a man's decision without the other side of the story been known.

Considering the matter is such a private one, why are you posting on an open forum on the subject without giving full facts. Surely a PM would be more appropriate.

**First** · 16/11/2006, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by Young Lad

Considering the matter is such a private one, why are you posting on an open forum on the subject without giving full facts. Surely a PM would be more appropriate.

Young Lad , if you are looking for a reaction I am sorry you are not going to get one. I was responding to Hackers post and making it clear that there are 2 sides to this. . Feel free to give your opinion on the matter. Mine would be that the lad was treated badly if I was to go with the information on Hackers post alone.As far as I am concerned the matter is over

Have a nice evening

**papa-j** · 17/11/2006, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=hacker;576308]why dont ya turn around and ask him why he was dropped he's rite beside you..

First / smellyfeet...the hacker has you rumbled

**CmonTheRovers** · 20/11/2006, 8:21 AM

a great result for the OTs. Anyone got a match report? i missed the game as wasnt around the weekend. Heard from a source that one of the Clare goals was a cracker....

Also heard last game vs Limerick is set for January, that true?

**myleftfoot** · 20/11/2006, 4:59 PM

Jocks goal an absolute cracker allright.
Terrible conditions almost impossible to play good football. Small but very wet crowd. Definitely a game of 2 halves.
Clare played against the gale force wind in 1st half and were under huge pressure for most of it despite this skinny didnt have a decent save to make . Defence did very well Rochford outstanding during this half and skinny did well under some high balls. Munster had most of the pressure but Clare had one decent chance put wide by o'brien from mountshannon. Munster had one great move and would have scored but for a great tackle by Rochford before HT. Clare didnt play much football but defended very well in terrible conditions.
2nd half played in munster half defence. Donnellan did well when he came on and Jocks was clares best player in 2nd half - scored a cracker. Derek Byrne got forward well to score with a deflection. Sloppy goal conceded late but Clare should have scored more. Donnellan put a great chance wide and several more went close. Conditions prevented great flowing football. Clares great battling in the first half proved to be the winning of the game in the end.
My player ratings
Skinny 8, Byrne 8, Left full (dont know his name sorry) 7, Rochford 9, OMalley 7, Jocks 9, Hoey 7, Daly 7, Downes 7, Maxwell 6, OBrien 6. Donnellan 8, Carmody 6.