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    anyway it looks like city's gona be playing the home leg not in cork eh !!!

    *gets topic back to the original point*

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    Originally posted by James
    anyway it looks like city's gona be playing the home leg not in cork eh !!!

    *gets topic back to the original point*
    ah well, at least you know when your beaten

    Anyhoo, try here for uefa regulations. I'll try and find out.

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    Originally posted by James
    anyway it looks like city's gona be playing the home leg not in cork eh !!!
    1. City haven't qualified for ANY European competition yet.
    2. It's NOT definite we can't play such a tie in the Cross.
    3. Even if we can't it hardly Lennox's fault.

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    1: true we havent qualified for anything yet bar the next round of the cup on sat in donegal but i asked the question last night as a hypothetical scenario and was stating the reply i got

    2:i think BL pretty much said that we couldnt last night

    3: i never said that was his fault. what i did say was proposturous (sp!) was the fact that he said depending on the draw they might consider playing 2 away legs.. that IMO is fuppin rediculous and makes a mockery of CCFC and how seriouslythe competition is valued by the club..
    And as BL is in sole charge of the club now and we dont have 7 directors anymore, this viewpoint of his, is therefore the clubs viewpoint, and one which i think is a disgrace.. other then that i was quiet satisfied with his response to all questions last night and i hope to god he reconsiders this rediculous idea of even potentially conceeding home advantage.

    this imo should never even be considered no matter what the draw

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    source- Safety and security in the stadium for all UEFA competition matches

    "The following UEFA competition matches must be played exclusively before seated spectators:
    - All matches in the European Championship
    - All matches in the UEFA Champions League
    - All matches in the UEFA Cup
    - UEFA Super Cup"

    "All-Seater Stadium – Definition
    An all-seater stadium is one in which all viewing areas available to the public offer seated accommodation only, and/or from which spectators do not have access to any viewing area which is not seated. In other words, for UEFA's purposes, a stadium which consists of both seated areas and standing terraces will be considered an all-seater stadium, provided the standing
    terraces remain closed to spectators.
    Seats for Spectators – Definition
    Seats must be fixed to the floor. They must be individually separated from one another, be shaped, be identified by a number, be made of unbreakable, non-flammable material and be equipped with a backrest preferably of a minimum height of 30 cm (measured from the back edge of the seat). For the time being, existing seats without backrests are acceptable. In future,
    when existing seat facilities are renovated or new facilities constructed, seats which correspond to the standards quoted herein must be provided. Bench seating of any description is not acceptable and will be regarded as standing accommodation."


    That's all there is on seating there.

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    Originally posted by James
    i hope to god he reconsiders this rediculous idea of even potentially conceeding home advantage.

    this imo should never even be considered no matter what the draw
    Not necessarily. Ok, far from ideal, but which would you rather- playin 2 games in a week in latvia or wherever and making a holiday out of it, or travelling there for away leg and then dublin for home leg? Probably cheaper just to spend the week away! Also, for the club, possibly cheaper too.

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    there's also a download available on the uefa site with the rules and regulations for the UEFA cup, maybe details in there. Only prob is there's an error on the page-maybe one of ye computer buffs can do something with it!

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    Originally posted by Éanna
    source- Safety and security in the stadium for all UEFA competition matches

    "The following UEFA competition matches must be played exclusively before seated spectators:
    - All matches in the European Championship
    - All matches in the UEFA Champions League
    - All matches in the UEFA Cup
    - UEFA Super Cup"

    "All-Seater Stadium – Definition
    An all-seater stadium is one in which all viewing areas available to the public offer seated accommodation only, and/or from which spectators do not have access to any viewing area which is not seated. In other words, for UEFA's purposes, a stadium which consists of both seated areas and standing terraces will be considered an all-seater stadium, provided the standing
    terraces remain closed to spectators.
    Seats for Spectators – Definition
    Seats must be fixed to the floor. They must be individually separated from one another, be shaped, be identified by a number, be made of unbreakable, non-flammable material and be equipped with a backrest preferably of a minimum height of 30 cm (measured from the back edge of the seat). For the time being, existing seats without backrests are acceptable. In future,
    when existing seat facilities are renovated or new facilities constructed, seats which correspond to the standards quoted herein must be provided. Bench seating of any description is not acceptable and will be regarded as standing accommodation."

    Nothing in all that to suggest what the minimum number of seats required is! Maybe Brian Lennox got it wrong on the 7000?

    It says it will be considered an all-seater stadium provided the standing terraces remain closed. So, I wonder does that mean we could get away with just closing off the Shed like we did against Lausanne 2 years ago.

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    Originally posted by COLM

    Nothing in all that to suggest what the minimum number of seats required is! Maybe Brian Lennox got it wrong on the 7000?

    i think he has. for one thing, take a look at the clubs in the preliminary rounds of the uefa cup and champions league. many of them dont have that amount of seating. there was talk of dundalk hosting their leg of the uefa cup match at home. it would have meant fencing off all of the ground except for the stand which only holds about 600

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    Lightbulb

    these uefa rules are never that hard and fast, so don't everyone get their knickers in a twist
    Yup, sure Uefa bringing in this licencing system which in theory would close down prtetty much ever irish club. These rulkes are rarely implemented overnight as Uefa are accomadating if clubs seen to be be progressing.

    Its unlikely city will win the league plus would have 6 months from winning league to first euro game to get 1,000 extra seast into the cross. Even if you let the shed along could possibly get them in on the sides of thre st annes end & alongside the stand.

    Flancare only has 6000 or 6500 seats if i'm correct?

    IMO city should start making plans to knock the shed in the medium term anyway. With the FAI about to get more cash for development than ever before backed up by government capital grants city may only need to come up with as little as 30% of any building costs... There will never be a better time & teh shed will go sometime anyway.

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    Has anyone considered that 7000 seats is too much for most of the leagues similar in size to the EL? I.E. Irish league, LoW, Iceland, Malta Luxemborg etc........half the entrants to the competitions would be affected. I think its just that all stadia need to be all seated. capacity cannot be that high surely

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    For James and Éanna

    Are you tweo having a B!tch fight !!

    Lads .... the rules are:

    No pinching, biting, tickling, pulling hair or scratching.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Re: For James and Éanna

    Back to the topic on hand...

    Originally posted by A face
    Are you tweo having a B!tch fight !!
    No need to bring Éannas inflatable into this.


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    The rules are far from strict. For the prelims I think City would be alright, but this is all ifs and buts at the present. We ain't qualified for anything.

    Has anyone read the FAI eL handbook? It's a great read. Each Div One club is supposed to have in the region of 800? covered seats. The Premier is far more.
    Every ground is supposed to have running hot water!

    All football bodies make stupid rules and don't enforce half of them. Do you remember a while back they had a big conference and one of the main decisions taken was that if you were wearing shorts underneath your gear, they had to be the same colour as the gear?
    These guys have a great life.

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    Smile

    It won't be a prob put a few hundred seat on the roofs of the houses and sheds and it will be just like the Nou Camp
    It's only just begun...............
    If the last 21 years were class, here's looking forward to the next 21 years. It is our time

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    Originally posted by Dricky
    It won't be a prob put a few hundred seat on the roofs of the houses and sheds and it will be just like the Nou Camp
    Thats the innovative thinking we need people.













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    Originally posted by pete
    IMO city should start making plans to knock the shed in the medium term anyway.
    Problem with that is, as Lennox was at pains to point out on tuesday, that any building has to be decided on by the MFA, and they don't seem too keen on doing anything right now.

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    Originally posted by Éanna

    Problem with that is, as Lennox was at pains to point out on tuesday, that any building has to be decided on by the MFA, and they don't seem too keen on doing anything right now.
    And the MFA didn't seem to be very obliging with the info on plans made/in the making and the chances of City having any input seemed very slim.

    Basically BL doesn't have a say really on what happens to the shed.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Re: For James and Éanna

    Originally posted by A face
    Are you tweo having a B!tch fight !!
    I dunno! Are we?

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    Originally posted by A face
    Basically BL doesn't have a say really on what happens to the shed.
    Bit rich of the MFA when city having pumped in some of ther own funds (or lotto funds) for development of the last few years.

    I say we move back to Bishopstown!


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