1st Divison run in!

**NY Hoop** · 17/10/2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by scotsbeer

sorry but thats absolute pish. every club in eircom league are trying to get as many fans as they can through the gates and if they have a decent enough marketing department and know their fan base then it only makes sense to try to have their home games when it best suits the fans and at the same time maximising attendances. prob the main reason ga;way have home games on fridays. a fair argument can be made from away fans on how diffficult it would be to get to galway for friday night games and i can agree with that but there are very few clubs who have such a decent travelling support for most eircom league clubs to consider the benefits (gate money from them) of changing traditional kick off times. with no set standard kick off times in place in the league it only adds to the problems of attracting fans to games.united fans have had to endure thursday friday saturday and even sunday afternoon kick offs the last few seasons but at least away fans generally know that our home games at terryland are on friday nights. and before anyone sets the record straight, i know that this season once or twice there have been stupid saturday afternoon and evening games at terryland but generally they do play fridays. reasons for these kick of times still havnt been explained to me which again shows how much the league are doing things without considering the fans. lets hope that will all change next season

Agree but there should not be any games played on thursday nights.

KOH

**JC_GUFC** · 17/10/2006, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

Having finally caught up with everyone else for the first time since April, we are of course, top of the league on the back of 3 straight wins. Galway and Dundalk could win the league, but as they have shown all season, only by playing more games than us.

Actually if our last 5 games were against Rovers I'd be pretty confident we'd win the league!

Rovers have the easiest run-in but after Friday United will.

Rovers have scored enough in the last few games to put the GD issue out of the window. They will HAVE to slip up for anyone else to win the league.

**DvB** · 17/10/2006, 1:36 PM

Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

Actually if our last 5 games were against Rovers I'd be pretty confident we'd win the league!

Rovers have the easiest run-in but after Friday United will.

Rovers have scored enough in the last few games to put the GD issue out of the window. They will HAVE to slip up for anyone else to win the league.

JC that would depend where the games were to be played, we've been unlucky twice in Terryland this season & there hasnt been more than a goal between the sides in all 4 games, hard to call another 5 of them in all honesty!

Personally i think we have a tough run in, Cobh & Limerick away (ie fourth & fifth in the table) in grounds we've yet to win in this season, i'm not banking on six points there to be fair & am really not looking forward to Kilkenny this saturday, if you can avoid defeat v Dundalk imo Galway are easily the favourites as i cant see any real games where I could expect you to drop points!

Far closer than i would have predicted a few weeks ago!!

Koh

**JC_GUFC** · 18/10/2006, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by DvB

JC that would depend where the games were to be played, we've been unlucky twice in Terryland this season & there hasnt been more than a goal between the sides in all 4 games, hard to call another 5 of them in all honesty!

Personally i think we have a tough run in, Cobh & Limerick away (ie fourth & fifth in the table) in grounds we've yet to win in this season, i'm not banking on six points there to be fair & am really not looking forward to Kilkenny this saturday, if you can avoid defeat v Dundalk imo Galway are easily the favourites as i cant see any real games where I could expect you to drop points!

Far closer than i would have predicted a few weeks ago!!

Koh

Well you've only scored once against us in the 4 games and that was from a terrible error deep into injury time.
Whatever about the first game in Terryland we definitely deserved the win in our last meeting!
That said there is very little between the 2 of us and Dundalk for that matter.
If we beat Dundalk, we'll prob go back to favourites as we do have the easier run-in.
That said we've won 7 in a row including wins in Cobh and Limerick so there's no reason Rovers can't do the same.

**mypost** · 18/10/2006, 6:42 PM

All 3 sides have difficult run-ins. Dundalk still have to visit Finn Harps, not an easy place to win at, and have to go to Galway also. Galway's run-in is tough as well, with only their game at home to Kildare a 3-point banker. Athlone always give them problems, while both Rovers and Galway have to play Cobh and Kilkenny, which while winnable, are against sides who are both notoriously hard to break down.

**Dave drummerboy** · 18/10/2006, 10:46 PM

im lucking for cobh to do us favours .

**mypost** · 21/10/2006, 2:02 AM

Originally Posted by scotsbeer

every club in eircom league are trying to get as many fans as they can through the gates and if they have a decent enough marketing department and know their fan base then it only makes sense to try to have their home games when it best suits the fans and at the same time maximising attendances. prob the main reason ga;way have home games on fridays. a fair argument can be made from away fans on how diffficult it would be to get to galway for friday night games and i can agree with that but there are very few clubs who have such a decent travelling support for most eircom league clubs to consider the benefits (gate money from them) of changing traditional kick off times. with no set standard kick off times in place in the league it only adds to the problems of attracting fans to games.united fans have had to endure thursday friday saturday and even sunday afternoon kick offs the last few seasons but at least away fans generally know that our home games at terryland are on friday nights. and before anyone sets the record straight, i know that this season once or twice there have been stupid saturday afternoon and evening games at terryland but generally they do play fridays. reasons for these kick of times still havnt been explained to me which again shows how much the league are doing things without considering the fans. lets hope that will all change next season

Years ago, there are people who said summer soccer couldn't work, but it did. They said full-time soccer wouldn't work. but it did. There are people who said that the smoking ban wouldn't work here, but guess what, it did.

This league struggles to attract fans/press/tv coverage as it is, and most of that is down to the wacky times we play league games here. Games on Thursday/Friday nights, Saturday/Sunday afternoons that few people bar the hard core go to. Few kids/away fans at games on Thursdays/Fridays, and foreign football on tv at the other times.

The best time to play games is Saturday evenings, and in many countries in Europe, that is the time when games are played, where everyone's demands (players/fans/media) are catered for. Sadly not here, where m� f�in rules amongst the clubs, and attendances suffer from no marketing, shoddy tv coverage, and a lack of interest from the general public.

The status quo will continue as long as the games are played on different nights, with no marketing in local and national media. Marketing Saturday night in the media as nationwide NL night, with all games starting simultaneously, a live tv game every single week, swiftly followed by a glossy highlights show (with match commentaries, interviews and slick analysis, not lazy voiceovers) repeated soon afterwards for the benefit of fans who went to games earlier, is the way forward, for interest, and attendances to increase. It's not that difficult to do, however it requires motivation and commitment from everyone involved to make it work, but it's easier to make excuses, cop-outs, pick holes, then whinge why match attendances and media coverage is poor, while doing nothing to improve it.

**geezer** · 21/10/2006, 9:26 AM

we were well and truly tanked last night by a an excellent dundalk outfit all 11 of which were able to play football, pass move and physically strong and fantastically fit. Dundalk brought the biggest away crowd i have seen in years and on a friday night to terryland and in my experience this doesnt happen unless a club has a very good team.
hats off to them

**hoopy** · 21/10/2006, 11:10 AM

Are you saying Dundalk's ticket allocation wasn't restricted? Ps, our game in Kilkenny is off

**Trainee** · 21/10/2006, 11:18 AM

After last night the first Div is Rovers to loose

They have a far better goal difference than dundalk

But will live in hope that both rovers and dundalk somehow slip up and galway utd some how manage to rob the on the last day of the season

**Terry** · 21/10/2006, 11:21 AM

why is the rovers -v- kilkenny game off ?

**hoopy** · 21/10/2006, 11:49 AM

The pitch has a drainage problem apparantely.

**manic da hoop** · 21/10/2006, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

why is the rovers -v- kilkenny game off ?

Kilkenny have a "Rovers" problem. Best to re-fix for a date and time when we'll bring far fewer fans with us

**Conor H** · 21/10/2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by manic da hoop

Kilkenny have a "Rovers" problem. Best to re-fix for a date and time when we'll bring far fewer fans with us

The ref calls the game off not Kilkenny FC.Just because a match gets called off doesn't mean there's a massive conspiracy against yee.Get over yourself.

**manic da hoop** · 21/10/2006, 2:02 PM

Eh, no there's no conspiracy against us, not at all

The referee is employed by a higher authority, ie. the FAI. With the match not going ahead tonight it will have to be refixed for a more awkward mid-week/evening time, thus adding to our backlog at just the wrong time of year. Why don't they just declare the fixture abandoned and award the points to Kilkenny now, and save us the hassle of having to play it at all?

**Conor H** · 21/10/2006, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by manic da hoop

Eh, no there's no conspiracy against us, not at all

The referee is employed by a higher authority, ie. the FAI. With the match not going ahead tonight it will have to be refixed for a more awkward mid-week/evening time, thus adding to our backlog at just the wrong time of year. Why don't they just declare the fixture abandoned and award the points to Kilkenny now, and save us the hassle of having to play it at all?

Ya i could just imagine it.
FAI-"Make sure ya call that Kilkenny v Rovers game off tonight"
Ref-"Why?"
FAI-"Cause they're Rovers and we hate them ok"
Ref_"OK"

**manic da hoop** · 21/10/2006, 3:44 PM

Nail-hit-on-head

**hoopy** · 21/10/2006, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by Conor H

The ref calls the game off not Kilkenny FC.Just because a match gets called off doesn't mean there's a massive conspiracy against yee.Get over yourself.

So are you saying that the ref was in Kilkenny at 11oc? The Kilkenny chairman is a sad and bitter individual