QuoteJeesh, how naive are you? Please see here for an "I told you so"Originally Posted by pete
Have to agree here ( about what has happened historically, though I am not saying Derry can't break the sequence ). Stephen Kenny himself said after the match that this was not a typical performance from PSG.
Previously there was Bohs vs Rosenborg where Bohs looked more than a match for Rosenborg in Dalyer but then were blown away in the second leg in Norway. There was Cork City vs Red Star Belgrade this year where they didn't seem too pushed in Turner's Cross but mopped the ground with City in the second leg. This has happened to a good few Irish clubs in the last few years.
All that said I'm rooting for Derry to winso it's really a question of how well Derry can defend and how well they hold onto the ball. Fingers crossed!
Jeesh, how naive are you? Please see here for an "I told you so"
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Best line though was " My record speaks for itself "
Yes Roddy you managed to relegate a team on €23,000 a week on wages. Well done.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the gypos. Wouldnt be at all surprised if they bring back Shoddy.
Like dummy you just cant take him seriously.
KOH
They left players out as they were dropped or disciplined for poor performances, ie Dhorasso and Cisse, they were not rested as was supposed to be their official line. Mendy was suspended and Rothen was injured. They made only two changes from the team that played Derry to beat Monaco away. Mendy returned and Pauletta came in. Cisse returned to a place in the bench. It puts things in a different perspective.
It could be a long night for Derry, especially if we get through.
It's all ifs, buts, and maybes, we'll go and enjoy it and give it a go. If we get beat, there will be no shame.
He pushing for the Bohs job, here's what he said at the start of August:
Twocent 'The Eircom League is really rubbish'
Roddy Collins
THIS week was enough, it crossed the limit and it left me feeling so sorry for the people and players from Cork. They were way out of their league in Belgrade yet we have listened to their manager and other people in the league ramble on for months about how a team from here is getting closer to the Champions League, how it's only a matter of time, how it will happen in the short term. That is absolute crap and this league is still rubbish. Really rubbish.
The only thing different from when I was playing is that the players are now fulltime and therefore fitter. But looking at it from a quality point of view they are no better than we were. And I'm using Cork as an example because they are our champions. They played in Europe last year yet rather than strengthen their squad they have got much weaker and still talk about competing and making strides. The people going around saying this are deluded and they should shut up because they are doing nobody any favours.
When have you ever heard of a team from here competing with a Leicester or a Plymouth for a player? Never, because it doesn't happen.
Even with us having the added bonus of a soft spot in European competition. The players here, for the most part, are those that failed in England, or weren't good enough to make it over there, just like I was all those years ago so nothing has changed.
The Intertoto is about our level and that will never change unless there are serious changes. And I don't mean another stupid blueprint that seems to come out every year, followed by the same rubbish about this club being the next Rosenberg.
Take the owners of clubs here. They won't move because it's been in the family and they've been putting pennies in the pot for so many years. That's all well and good, fair play to them, but it's time to move on. If you own a pub and have 10 lads sitting at the bar every day and you were losing money you sell the pub or go into liquidation. A few years ago, I brought a multi-millionaire over here, and introduced him to four chairmen. He now owns Gretna because the people here won't get out of the way and move aside. I listened to those four one night on the radio talk about the struggle and the effort and nearly got sick.
This Celtic Tiger has brought so much money into this country and yet people are telling me there isn't a multi-national here that would invest some money, or a Dermot Desmond or whoever. They'd do it if they could buy it lock, stock and barrel but the people who own these clubs want their name associated with it forever to feed their egos. They are doing this while this league is going down the drain and continues to get worse and worse.
The only ones investing money are Drogheda and long may that continue because if they keep it up for about 20 years they might get somewhere. But even they are incestuous. They buy the same players who are within the league and pay them good money when, if they left the country and travelled to Europe and England, for that same money they could get some really good players. But they are wasting their time and money with what they are doing at present.
This is all why I got out of it.
I love football and being involved with football but I just couldn't take the day to day of the Eircom League wondering if you are going to be able to pay this guy and trying to explain to him there's no money this week.
It's rubbish. Dublin City are gone and you don't need me to tell you about 80 per cent of the league is insolvent. Just look at their books.
The vision in this league is blind. You need money in football and there is none here.
Go down to the Phoenix Park and have a look around and see the amount of foreign nationals playing football.
Why do you think none of these people go to an Eircom League match, this is the world's sport after all?
Because they know it is crap.
The government or the FAI or somebody should come in and say that if you're losing money, you have to sell your club. That's it and we can move on. Otherwise don't believe the same garbage you'll hear over and over again about progress.
wow was that done in joined up writing. Im sure he can spell liquidation cause thats all he would brings to EL
I wish i did not know then what I dont know now
Wonder if he can spell "bitter" or "failure".
It takes some rat to desert two sinking ships in successive seasons. Getting teams relegated is one thing - Rodders didn't even have the courage or decency to stick it out to the end.
"Even if the wind stops to blow
Even if the sea ceases to flow
Even if the sun ceases to rise
The name of Sligo Rovers will shine and shine forever like the morning star glittering in the sky."
I think you must have meant " mismanaged".
tony fenton on today fm blowing on about how he met shoddy and he was mad for the bohs job. fenton, the clue merchant, thought hed be ideal and wished him luck
Well at least his employers and shoddy have one thing in common: they hate the EL.
KOH
[admittedly ever so slightly off-topic, but] I never knew that Tony Fenton's real name is Tony Fagan. He changed it to the far more glamorous DJing name of Fenton!!or so I read in some rag or other.
Tony, like Tubridy (the most strangle-able gimp on the planet), wanted us all to support Poland in the World Cup not getting the fact that a football fan can enjoy it for the quality of the football without needing to contrive a false emotional attachment to a particular team. These are the type of people who wear Yankees caps.
I wear a Yankees hat
Ipso factoI wear a Yankees hat
QED
Roddy is Bohs spiritual leader!
thats right - hes originally from the same road as me (so was Dave Kelly - FM104 manager these days I think; and Ian dempsey is from a couple of roads over. Theres others too that I cant remember at the mo'. Its the 'international accent' of 'glasnevin north'[admittedly ever so slightly off-topic, but] I never knew that Tony Fenton's real name is Tony Fagan. He changed it to the far more glamorous DJing name of Fenton!!)
Oh yes, Roddy is a *&^%$£
Newsflash: Roddy just told Newstalk that "the reason I'm not in football anymore is cause I speak my mind".
Here was me thinking it was because he was a sh1te manager.
Thanks for clearing that one up.......
Roddy the has-been is at it again !!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
It fairless it is hard having the same name as a LOI legend.[admittedly ever so slightly off-topic, but] I never knew that Tony Fenton's real name is Tony Fagan. He changed it to the far more glamorous DJing name of Fenton!!
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[QUOTE=londonred;563519][admittedly ever so slightly off-topic, but] I never knew that Tony Fenton's real name is Tony Fagan. He changed it to the far more glamorous DJing name of Fenton!!
It fairless it is hard having the same name as a LOI legend.
was just going 2 post the same thing!
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