Official Seedings Thread

**eirebhoy** · 13/09/2006, 11:50 AM

I thought I'd open a thread to keep track of our seeding throughout the campaign. For those that don't know, the seeding is calculated by a country's average points per game over the last 2 campaigns. We were seeded 25th of 52 country for the current Euro qualifiers. We started the current seedings in 22nd place (ie. We had the 22nd best points/game ratio from the last campaign only).

This is the ranking of teams based on their seedings for the next world cup qualifiers before a Euro qualifier was played:

Code:

A                B
1 Netherlands    10 Romania
2 England        11 Ukraine
3 Portugal       12 France
4 Sweden         13 Spain
5 Croatia        14 Turkey
6 Poland         15 Russia
7 Italy          16 Slovakia
8 Czech Republic 17 Denmark
9 Serbia         18 Switzerland

C                D
19 Norway        28 Finland
20 Israel        29 Scotland
21 Greece        30 Latvia
22 Ireland       31 Belgium
23 Bosnia        32 Slovenia
24 Bulgaria      33 Albania
25 Austria       34 Lithuania
26 Estonia       35 Belarus
27 Hungary       36 Northern Ireland

E                F
37 Georgia       46 Azerbaijan
38 Wales         47 Malta
39 Macedonia     48 Faroe Islands
40 Liechtenstein 49 Kazakhstan
41 Armenia       50 Luxembourg
42 Moldova        51 San Marino
43 Andorra     
44 Iceland
45 Cyprus

N/A Germany
N/A Montenegro

And the updated seedings after the first set of games:

Code:

			World Cup 2006	Euro 2008		
		Team	Played	Points	Played	Points	Avg Points
1	A	Germany			2	6	3.0
2	A	Holland	 12	 32	2	6	2.714
3	A	England	 10	 25	2	6	2.583
4	A	Sweden	 10	 24	2	6	2.5
5	A	Portugal 12	 30	1	1	2.385
6	A	Czech    12	 27	2	6	2.357
7	A	Croatia	 10	 24	1	1	2.273
8	A	Serbia   10	 22	2	4	2.167
9	A	France	 10	 20	2	6	2.167
10	B	Ukraine	 12	 25	1	3	2.154
11	B	Poland	 10	 24	2	1	2.083
12	B	Romania	 12	 25	2	4	2.071
13	B	Italy	 10	 23	2	1	2.0
14	B	Turkey	 12	 23	1	3	2.0
15	B	Norway	 10	 18	2	6	2.0
16	B	Israel	 10	 18	2	6	2.0
17	B	Denmark	 12	 22	1	3	1.923
18	B	Spain	 10	 20	2	3	1.917
19	C	Slovak.	 12	 23	2	3	1.857
20	C	Russia	 12	 23	1	1	1.846
21	C	Greece	 12	 21	1	3	1.846
22	C	Switz.	 10	 18			1.8
23	C	Bosnia	 10	 16	2	3	1.583
24	C	Bulgar.	 10	 15	2	4	1.583
25	C	Scotlnd	 10	 13	2	6	1.583
26	C	Ireland	 10	 17	1	0	1.545
27	C	Austria	 10	 15			1.5
28	D	Finland	 12	 16	2	4	1.428
29	D	Hungary	 10	 14	2	3	1.417
30	D	Belgium	 10	 12	2	4	1.333
31	D	Estonia	 12	 17	2	0	1.214
32	D	Latvia	 12	 15	1	0	1.154
33	D	Sloven.	 10	 12	1	0	1.091
34	D	Albania	 12	 13	2	1	1.0
35	D	N.Irel	 10	 9	2	3	1.0
36	D	Lithua.	 10	 10	2	1	0.917
37	E	Belarus	 10	 10	2	1	0.917
38	E	Georgia	 12	 10	3	3	0.867
39	E	Macedo.	 12	 9	2	3	0.857
40	E	Wales	 10	 8	1	0	0.727
41	E	Iceland	 10	 4	2	3	0.583
42	E	Liecht.	 12	 8	2	0	0.571
43	E	Armenia	 12	 7	1	0	0.538
44	E	Moldova	 10	 5	2	0	0.417
45	E	Cyprus	 10	 4	1	0	0.364
46	F	Andorra	 12	 5	2	0	0.357
47	F	Azerbai. 10	 3	2	1	0.333
48	F	Malta    10	 3	2	0	0.25
49	F	Kazakh.	 12	 1	2	2	0.214
50	F	Faroes	 10	 1	2	0	0.083
51	F	Luxemb.	 12	 0	1	0	0
52	F	San M.	 10	 0	1	0	0
53      F       Montenegro ---

I'll keep this thread updated for every set of games.

**pineapple stu** · 12/10/2006, 1:17 PM

Bump.

Any update on this, eirebhoy? Hungary losing to Malta will have helped us, but it looks like we're on the brink of entering Pot E at the moment, although two wins against San Marino would be a boost.

**blobbyblob** · 12/10/2006, 1:40 PM

Assuming that nobody else moved since then, we are now in Pot E with 1.38

**eirebhoy** · 12/10/2006, 1:45 PM

Latest Update:

Code:

			World Cup 2006	Euro 2008		
		Team	Played	Points	Played	Points	Avg Points
1	A	Germany			3	9	3
2	A	Holland	 12	32	4	10	2.625
3	A	Sweden	 10	24	4	12	2.571
4	A	Croatia	 10	24	3	7	2.385
5	A	Czech    12	27	4	10	2.313
6	A	England	 10	25	4	7	2.286
7	A	Serbia   10	22	4	10	2.286
8	B	Portugal 12	30	3	4	2.267
9	B	Poland	 10	24	4	7	2.214
10	B	Italy	 10	23	4	7	2.143
11	B	Romania	 12	25	3	7	2.133
12	B	France	 10	20	4	9	2.071
13	B	Ukraine	 12	25	3	6	2.067
14	B	Turkey	 12	23	3	7	2
15	C	Greece	 12	21	3	9	2
16	C	Denmark	 12	22	3	7	1.933
17	C	Israel	 10	18	3	7	1.923
18	C	Russia	 12	23	3	5	1.867
19	C	Norway	 10	18	3	6	1.846
20	C	Slovak.	 12	23	4	6	1.813
21	C	Switz.	 10	18			1.8
22	D	Spain	 10	20	3	3	1.769
23	D	Bulgar.	 10	15	4	8	1.643
24	D	Scotlnd	 10	13	4	9	1.571
25	D	Austria	 10	15			1.5
26	D	Finland	 12	16	4	8	1.5
27	D	Bosnia	 10	16	4	4	1.429
28	D	Ireland	 10	17	3	1	1.385
29	E	Belgium	 10	12	4	7	1.357
30	E	Hungary	 10	14	4	3	1.214
31	E	Latvia	 12	15	3	3	1.2
32	E	Sloven	 10	12	3	3	1.154
33	E	N.Irel	 10	9	4	7	1.143
34	E	Estonia	 12	17	3	0	1.133
35	E	Lithua.	 10	10	3	4	1.077
36	F	Belarus	 10	10	4	4	1
37	F	Macedo.	 12	9	4	7	1
38	F	Albania	 12	13	3	1	0.933
39	F	Wales	 10	8	3	3	0.846
40	F	Georgia	 12	10	4	3	0.813
41	F	Cyprus	 10	4	3	3	0.538
42	F	Liecht.	 12	8	3	0	0.533
43		Armenia	 12	7	3	1	0.533
44		Iceland	 10	4	4	3	0.5
45		Malta	 10	3	3	3	0.462
46		Moldova	 10	5	4	0	0.357
47		Andorra	 12	5	4	0	0.313
48		Azerb.	 10	3	4	1	0.286
49		Kazakh.	 12	1	4	2	0.188
50		Faroes	 10	1	4	0	0.0714
51		Luxemb.	 12	0	3	0	0
52		San M.	 10	0	2	0	0

**McGinty** · 12/10/2006, 2:00 PM

nice one eirebhoy, fair dues for keepin this updated!

**Pablo** · 12/10/2006, 3:03 PM

christ Belgium have taken some slide

**JamesB** · 12/10/2006, 3:13 PM

So have spain

**antrimgreen** · 12/10/2006, 3:23 PM

Great work eirebhoy, you have more information here than the UEFA site. Keep up the good work.

**cavan_fan** · 12/10/2006, 3:46 PM

Looking at this

Assume you need 1.4 to get into pot D, 1.8 to get into Pot C and 2 to get into Pot B.

I make this that we need 14 points to stay where we are, 23 to go into C and 27 to get into B.

We have 1 point, assume 6 vs San marino

From the remaining 7 matches we need another 7 to stay where we are, should do this (Wales, Cyprus home wins, draw vs Wales away or Slovaks at home)

16 to go up a level. Hard to see us doing this would need wins v Wales home and away, Cyprus home, Slovaks home, draws v germany at home and Czechs away and probably need to beat Slovaks away.

20 to go into Pot B. This means winnign all remaining games (would be 21 points)

Pot C is someting to aim for.

By the way this is based on 7 groups for the next campaign. I assume Europe will have 13 places, isnt 6 a possibility?

**pineapple stu** · 12/10/2006, 4:01 PM

There won't be six groups unless they plan on having 9 teams in some groups. There'll be seven at least, possibly eight.

You can't really tell anything from this as yet, as it's thrown out of synch by the fact that some teams have played poor teams and some have played better teams. We should be up to 1.6 by February after beating San Marino twice, with very few other games on. But it's still good to keep track.

For what it's worth, this is on Bert Kassies' site too.

**Fubar** · 12/10/2006, 4:46 PM

any way u cud post this seeding chart to stan every so often? he could use it for his "building for the future" plan...

**Traps Cat** · 12/10/2006, 5:09 PM

i cant belive that we are reduced to trying to get into a f***ing pot rather than the Tournament!!

**shakermaker1982** · 12/10/2006, 7:12 PM

Originally Posted by Youwerethereray

i cant belive that we are reduced to trying to get into a f***ing pot rather than the Tournament!!

that did make me laugh

**Bungle** · 15/10/2006, 12:26 PM

If we can finish this campaign well and get ourselves into the third pot of teams then that wouldn't be too bad.

San Marino 0 Ireland 2
Ireland 3 San Marino 0
Irealnd 2 Wales 1
Wales 0 Ireland 0
Slovakia 0 Ireland 0
Ireland 1 Slovakia 0
Czech Republic 2 Ireland 1
Ireland 2 Cyprus 0
Ireland 0 Germany 1.

Would leave us with 18 points.

**eirebhoy** · 15/10/2006, 12:34 PM

18 points from this group would leave us with a 1.59 average so we'd probably need more than that to get into Pot C.

**Bungle** · 15/10/2006, 1:04 PM

For us to do it then we'll have to do something special like win in Slovakia or maybe draw/win with the Germans and the Czechs.We'll also need to hope that there will be more results like Hungary and Malta,and teams like Russia/Ukraine/Bulgaria losing a good few points.

It seems that the next seedings group for the World Cup could be majorly messed up with countries like Spain in there potentially...on paper it could be harder than the second pot.