QuoteStop shouting!!!!!!!!!!
For the love of God, stop!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by DotTV
I TAKE OFFENCE THAT YOU ARE CALLING ME A RETARD...MODS???? I GOT BANNED FOR THIS KIND OF INSULT
Stop shouting!!!!!!!!!!
For the love of God, stop!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by pineapple stu; 12/09/2006 at 6:15 PM.
1) And if you continue to behave like this, you'll be banned again. We have a post reporting feature, use it.
2) You'll also be banned if you don't turn off your CAPS LOCK.
adam /deletes other shouty posts
Last edited by dahamsta; 18/09/2006 at 12:25 PM.
Anybody who saw merit in the appointment of Steve Staunton should not be allowed babysit goldfish.
Regardless of results, what a ridiculous appointment after the FAI saying we needed a proven quality international manager.
Adding a septegenarian with a history of medical problems and of questionable mental faculty despite his wealth of experience doesn'e exactly inspite confidence. Stan's interviews are also an embarassment, the man is always on the defensive and no way as good at defending here as he was on the pitch because he diddn't need to bluff on the pitch.
Delaney should go before anyone...MUPPET.
I agree - a strange appointment but the appointment has been made and if the results are good, all will be forgotten. Such is the way of football. It's a results driven game and fans' memories become very short
The use of the word Muppet is interesting - I am starting to detect that a lot of the anti-Stan brigade were on the other (dark) side in Saipan. Is this a correct assumption I wonder.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
no we are just anti gettin played off the pitch by holland at home and being spanked four nil...
Jesus Owls Fan you are more pre-occupied about Saipan than I thought. I am sure there are many who did not like Stan who are now having a go at him but to be honest you dont need to hold a grudge against Stan to criticise the appointment in the first place and to be critical of some of the things he has done so far.
In Trap we trust
Anything less than third is unnacceptable. If it becomes clear that we won't get third spot only then should he go.
And what if we lose our next 3 games?
It's the use of the word "muppet" which was the pejorative term that Keane used to describe those who supported Mick that leads me to believe that some people (not all) have an historical issue with Stan.
I am just amazed by this anti-Stan thing so early. I didn't agree with his appointment but he's in the seat now and he has had ONE competitive game where the team did reasonably well away to Germany. I will judge him on the campaign ahead and if he turns out to be a disaster, then I will join the ranks of those calling for his head, but not until he has been given a chance. That is common sense to me but I have seen all these knee jerk reactions before. I remember reading a piece by Con Houlihan in the Evening Press after Charlton's first home game 0-1 defeat by Wales absolutely slating the appointment of Big Jack. Stan is the manager - let's see how it goes.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Owls fan you speak an awful lot of sense.
I cannot believe the amount of anti-Stan feeling the last few weeks and why? because he is an easy target.
Now dont get me wrong he has done one or two bizarre things, notably in who he has called up to the squad. But he is a novice manager, anyone who expected him to do everything right from day one is fooling himself.
Friendlies=meaningless, ok the performances in the last two werent great. The german performance was decent, imo they are playing the best football or any nation at present and we held our own there. This is with a central midfield of OShea and Kilbane!!
Im just asking people to hold fire, our next 4 games are crucial. IMO we can and must get 12 points from them. If we do, I know everyone will be Stans biggest fan, if we dont well then is the time to sit back and take stock. Not now.
It is surely stretching things to suggest that Keane developed the use of the word Muppet in this kind of context.
Not everything to do with Irish football nowadays goes back to Saipan. In this case, Delaney let Kerr go on the basis of getting a top class international manager. Instead we got a Walsall reserve team coach. People not being happy with that, and the results since has nothing to do with Saipan.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Do people in the "leave poor stan alone" camp actually see any cause for optimism in anything they have seen so far? And if so can they share it with the rest of us.
bill , i see some cause , i will not look at the three friendlies but rather our only competitive game so far . a couple of months before the germans hockeyed the protuguese in the same stadium , we did well to get away with 1-0 and i doubt the czechs , slovaks or welsh will be as lucky. steven reid can only play better , kevin doyle was excellent and the team played in a style that i liked. it was obvious that stan came to try and win the game , even if we lost , if we win the next two games then i will be a full convert
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I think it does need to be pointed out again that without Shay Given, we could easily have lost by 3. Paddy Kenny's a great keeper but I have strong doubts he would have been able to stop all the shots Shay did. Staunton can't get the credit for that. I'm even more worried about the upcoming games than I was after the last one now that it's seems we've lost Given.
Last edited by czarner; 19/09/2006 at 2:25 PM.
I wouldn't have any doubts about Kenny's shot stopping. The Klose's header was sensational but other than that it would have been a 'relatively' comfortable day for Kenny. The only thing I'd worry about is if he's nervous and starts flapping at crosses.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 19/09/2006 at 2:29 PM.
Maybe you're right, I can't remember the details (saw it late at night here in china), but I thought I saw 2 amazing saves.
I suppose using a warped kind of logic you could say that what's been wrong so far has be just so wrong that it can't stay wrong. Kilbane as a CM, JO'S as a CM, Steven Reid as a RM and so on.
I said after the German game that there's not much wrong with the team that a good CM partnership wouldn't put right and I'll stick by that. Playing central midfielders in central midfield will be a start.
I'm just about prepared to write-off Chile & Holland for various reasons. I'm being highly selective I know. If Sweden & Germany were the only two games we're using to benchmark Staunton then I don't think we'd be so critical.
That said, this is the first time in nearly 30 years of following Ireland that I've had such grave concerns about the manager & where we're going but I just don't see any choice but to see what happens. I think we're condemned to have highly speculative managerial appointments until we can afford better. The only way I can see this happening is if the likes of Dromaville actually pay the salary of a top manager with the FAI paying a bonus dependent on final group placings.
First up, I've admired Kenny's handling to date.
Given's save from Klose was class.
The save from Podolski would have been bad goalkeeping if it had gone in. It looked spectacular but Given had time to react & it wasn't that far wide of him, at a good height too.
There was a one-on-one late in the second half that was impressive, but by no means beyond Kenny.
Maybe the next two games will be the making of Kenny.
If we need a heroic goalkeeping performance in Cyprus then God help us all anyway.
Agree with Stuttgart,
I think the only outstanding save Shay made against the germans was from Klose, I was right behind Podolskis shot and he did make the best of it.
Having said that he will be a massive loss, but he would be to any team.
Have always rated Kenny, but against the Dutch, he and the defence looked clueless. However, with a bit of luck, if they manage to put in a good performance against Cyprus and hopefully a clean sheet, they're and PK's confidence will be high going into the Czech game.
But as someone mentioned earlier, if we cant beat Cyprus (even w/o Given) we are kidding ourselves even thinking we may qualify from this group.
One competitive game which was a decent performance away to Germany. There is some cause for optimism.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
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