QuoteOk so who is a better manager in his family and outline why you dont think he is a good manager. I happen to think he is a good manager and his record at Charlton is pretty good.
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Ok so who is a better manager in his family and outline why you dont think he is a good manager. I happen to think he is a good manager and his record at Charlton is pretty good.
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I think Stan was the wrong man for the job but I am still prepared to give him a the full campaign - Im not calling for his head...yetOriginally Posted by drinkfeckarse
We do have the players to automatically qualify - I believe we are definitly good enough to finish second. I dont expect us to breeze through this campaign either and would accept not qualifing if we give 100% and fall short to a better team.
who are you to ask me that? its not for me to say whos better or whos best. my generation dont rate him and we wont be fooled again by no happy jack english manager comin over here with his brand new squeeze box thinking he is some kinda pin ball wizard.
What are you talking about. I suggested Alan Curbishly as a possible replacement for Staunton if it all goes tits up. You then said that Curbishley is not even the best manager in his family. So I am now asking you who is a better manager in Alan Curbishleys family and other than where he comes from what is wrong with Alan Curbishley as manager. If your only problem with Curbishley is that he is not from ireland that is fair enough as it is a valid view point that the national manager should be from the country he manages.
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his bro managed the who......
now why dont you just f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-ade away.........
Well I did not know that his brother managed the Who. Thanks for that piece of trivia, may come in handy at a pub quiz.
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While Staunton tell us all about his 4-year "plans", if we don't collect 3 wins out of the next 4, our rankings will slide alarmingly.
His handling of the media is quite appalling, tbh. Interview on Saturday:
Q: Do you think it was a penalty? (what he was sent off for)
S: What do you think?
It's up to Staunton to answer the question, not the journo to answer it for him. San Marino may have lost 13-0 to Germany, but unlike Ireland, at least they have a qualified coach. It's the players that let him down.
For gods sake guys give the man a break. He's had one competitive game which we didnt expect to get anything out of and was by no means a disaster. The guy deserves at least a campaign before judgement.
If he doesnt get three points in cyprus and follow that with a win at home to the czechs, then start analysing things.
But after two meaningless friendlies and a 1-0 away defeat to one of the top three best teams in the world, come on get a grip, reserve judgement for a while and get behind the team.
Plus i think its unfair for anyone to say the team didnt play with any passion on sat night.
I personally think we certainly have the players.
Duff is one of the top 10 left wingers in the world.
Given is one of the top 10 keepers in the world.
Finnan is a quality right back who never has a bad game in his preferred position.
Dunne is now captain and player of the year the last 2 seasons at City. An excellent centre half.
Steven Reid was superb for Blackburn last season and attracted interest from Spurs in the summer.
McGeady's in the form of his life and would no doubt help us in the goalscoring department.
Keane is our record goalscorer who needs someone that can get the best out of him.
Doyle has overtaken Morrison, Elliott, Connolly, Doherty and whoever else has played up front for us in recent years.
OK, the 3 positions after that are problem positions but if Man Utd are top of the league with O'Shea playing the holding role then we can survive with a few weak area's. Ian Harte was our left back for years and isn't the worst player in the world. Central defence is a worry but O'Brien looked very good against Germany.
We do have the players to qualify and that should certainly be the aim.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 07/09/2006 at 12:40 PM.
I agree with some of you that Stan is getting a really hard time at the moment, some of it is his own fault. i.e. answering a question with a question. We had a teacher in scholl who used to do the same and he was pretty painful to listen to....but its on the pitch that matters not how good Stan is with the media.
A couple of wins in the next few games and the media will be singing his priases for returning passion to the team. I was disappointed on saturday but was pleased with the work rate and passion..thats half the battle. The other half is having all your best players available and playing well. We need everything to fall into place for us or we could be in trouble but for now we need to get behind Stan and the lads. This forum is the number 1 place on the internet where Irish fans share opinions, opinions that are put to paper by our media.
So in a way we are indirectly responsible for negative headlines. A bit more positivity lads, the glass is half full.
And who exactly was my generation "fooled" by ? Our one and only wholly English manager saw us to European qualification (7 minutes away from a semi-final) and two World Cups (last 8 and last 16). If you want to join the revisionists, try and at least make some sense.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I don't doubt that and don't misinterpret what I was saying, what I mean is it is never going to be easy for us and I think a lot of fans expect us to qualify without actually putting much thought into the process.
Some people forget that the Germans and Czechs are still good teams regardless of whether they are in transistion or not. Wales will be 2 hard games also. I think we are already on the back foot not just because of Saturdays match but because of Germany putting 13 past San Marino. There's no danger we'll score 13 even over the 2 games against them never mind 1, so that's us struggling with goal difference already.
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Well, I'm happy that you're happy. You think Staunton is a better manager than Kerr ? Two competitive defeats,three defeats overall, two of them to the two teams who contested the recent world cup final. I hope all the people who wanted Brian Kerr out are now as happy as you. In my view you all deserve the manager Ireland now have. Staunton shouldn't be the one to carry the can though, John Delaney should walk with him.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
I agree Tony. Nobody can be happy that Kerr is gone and Staunton is in charge at the moment. We were promised a world class manager and what have we got. It was a gamble and most gambles dont work. I think it was fair enough that Kerr went as a 3rd and a 4th finish was not good enough in my view, but only if he was to be replaced by a top class manager. This has not happened.
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Scotland have W Smith, Wales have Toshack. Two managers with proven track records..... We have Stan.
Rumours are going around that L Sanchez will quit Northern Ireland for family reasons. I'd snap Curbs hand off if he wanted to manage us. Excellent record at Charlton with sweet fa resources.
I don't see where the evidence is that Stan is a failure after one competitive game.
Stan doesn't do media interviews, they are regarded as interrogations, whatever you say, say nothing.
The team under Kerr flopped in its first 2 real tests, Russia at home and Swiss away.
Apply at least 25% of the standards of objectivity that McCarthy and Kerr deserved and wait and see how the next games go.
Thanks for being happy for me. We were going nowhere except backwards with Kerr. He had his chance and he was found to be desperately short of what was needed. His time in charge was a disaster for the team. I like your selective picking of the stats leaving out the really important ones like we didn't beat anyone in over 3 years in a competitive match that was higher ranked than Albania (????) and we had our worst placed finish in a qualifying group in over 20 years. I don't give a sh**e that we beat Portugal and Holland in friendlies under him. Who cares?
Staunton wouldn't have been my choice but something had to be tried and there wasn't exactly a queue of top class international managers looking for the job (in large part due to a lack of interest because Kerr ran us into the ground). If he turns out to be a failure I wouldn't be surprised but at least we tried for something better than the previous sh**e. I'd be amazed if his time in charge proves to be any worse than Kerr's though to be honest.
would be a very brave move by the FAI to cut their losses after one competitive game under his belt, pay the huge compensation to Stan and ask Curbishley to take over. They don't have the money and would have far less after their wise decision to give an unproven manager a four year contract. You could not make some of this up.
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