Quoteor alternatively they log on here and read your posts.Originally Posted by youngirish
They probably already have. Masochistic Irish fans strap themselves to chairs , stick matchsticks between their eyelids and play them over and over again.There was a link to McGeady (I think)
The references to Hearts started when the McGeady clip against Hearts was posted.
One day we will have uTube clips of McGeady playing for Ireland
or alternatively they log on here and read your posts.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Yes. Yes I am.
Ireland is pants.Super pants
In Trap we trust
so you took the opportunity to address the "superiority complex" of eL fans by responding to a poster who's only words were "Hearts are pants". Not "Hearts are pants and every eL team would destroy them" nor "Hearts are crap and my irish team would beat them every day of the week" merely "Hearts are pants".Not at all - it was in direct answer to danonion's points about Hearts and sought to address the superiority complex that many eL fans on here actually have about their clubs and they level of football they play. Looks like I hit the bullseye.
PP
Thats a pretty twisted justification if you ask me. My reading of danonion's post would be that McGeady needs to do his party pieces against better teams than Hearts. I think thats a pretty reasonable interpretation of his post. I still dont see how or why you dragged the eL into this? Bizarre.
Looks like you hit the bullseye alright.
Last edited by SkStu; 13/11/2007 at 8:04 PM.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
In fairness the original post 'Hearts are pants' was pretty limited and was only going to wind up fans of Scottish football (ie Celtic fans on this site). If the Mons fan wanted to say he should be doing it against better opposition then he should have said just that. Hearts won that match 0-2 by the way, although they didn't deserve to. They are actually a decent side on their day.
PP,
I applaud your passion for the Irish team. Sickens me when my 2g and 3g mates get stick from my countrymen about their 'authenticity'.
Wonder how Mcgeady feels about it , cries of 'fuk off back to Scotland' coming down from the stands?
The dude abides....
McGeady is a hard player to judge.
He looked invisible against the Czechs/Slovaks, but absolutely dominated against Benfica.
He's got ability in abundance, but maybe there are questions around his confidence and consistency.
I think it may just be down to leadership and having good strong characters around him.
You get the feeling with Ireland that they're all looking at each other in the locker room, waiting for someone to take charge, and they were being led by an equally clueless manager.
This is in stark contrast to Celtic where he's got a confident and fiery manager in Strachan, and some good strong characters in the squad such as McManus and Brown who can really lead the way, and I'm sure they've all taken him aside at times and given him a few words of advice.
Some players need a little extra work, and you need managers and senior players to get the best out of these players. When you've got a young player with his kind of ability, it will certainly be worth the effort in the end.
I think of all our players , a negative response from the crowd seems to bring out the worst performance in him. a few good games as sub to build his confidance at Ireland level wouldnt do him any harm. comparisons with Duffs early performances are valid. Altho still think going on his performaces as starter so far for Ireland(cyprus; slovakia and czech rep) we cant afford to accomodate someone who contributes nothing defensively.
Passion for the Irish team but derision for Irish football.
However if your going to take cheap shots expect cheap shots back.
i would like someone to name me any player who reacts well to a barracking from fans. people who roar at players on thier own team are idiots . opposition players ? now they are fair game !!
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Roy Keane v Rangers in champions league at Ibrox...
altho think you mean their own fans......yeah I wasnt criticising Mageady for it I was just pointing out it may be a factor.
Roy Keane against Romania in Lansdowne, 2004. He had a really solid game, and after a while, people copped on and stopped booing him.i would like someone to name me any player who reacts well to a barracking from fans.
LOL i remember him making a foray up the park , he was gagging for a goal that night..
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
The exception that proves the rule...
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I didn't even remember I posted that until I saw all the furore I had caused! I was commenting that for a "tricky winger" type of player like McGeady, if he is to be considered a class player he needs to prove himself in a better league.
I would have Mark Kennedy playing for Ireland before McGeady, because McGeady is poor for Ireland every time he plays.
I'm also not trying to condemn Scottish football. I think for certain positions, playing in that league can be very good for a player's international career, like centre-forwards. Same with the Dutch league and the like...scoring a lot of goals builds confidence. But when you skin 37 year old midfielders and defenders, the confidence boost doesn't help so much when some 6'4 German fullback makes a complete arse out of you.
Also I wasn't beating the Eircom League drum by the "pants" comment (although I reckon Mons could win the SPL hai)
"No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets." -Mick McCarthy
nice fishing rod ya have there....
shouldnt you be busy ironing your leprechaun suit for saturday?
Roy Keane was 100% pure bast*rd. That's why booing him made him play better. He got off on it.
On a sidenote McGeady is muck.
For the time being just let Strachan keep doing what he's doing.McGeady will improve a lot more with Strachan coaching him than he will by just coming up against better players on a regular basis imo. He needs the coaching. He needs to be using his brain a lot more and that's something that has been improved on an awful lot under Strachan. I said it a few times but if Strachan got Thomas Gravesen at 19/20 I believe he would have been a world class player. He has everything but the tactical awareness.
Gravesen has everything, especially the looks.For the time being just let Strachan keep doing what he's doing.
"No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets." -Mick McCarthy
On reflection, and with danonion's own clarification, yes, your interpretation of his comment is clearly more accurate than mine was.
My initial reaction (and the post that followed) was coloured by thoughts of those foot.ie posters who subscribe to the "McGeady/the SPL is crap" school of thought, when in the main these are the type of people who consider a match at the Showgrounds or Turner's Cross to be the absolute last word in entertainment. In retrospect I should have enunciated my thoughts more clearly from the off but I stick by my point, no matter how arcane it appears in context.
On topic, if you want to see McGeady doing his "party pieces" against better teams than Hearts, there's plenty of stuff on YouTube showing the man in action against Benfica and Milan (twice), two of which matches were earlier this season. I think we can both agree that these teams are, in each case, better than the Jambos, don't you?
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