Aiden McGeady M Ayr Utd b.1986

**Brendan 82** · 27/08/2009, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mayo_Bhoy

He'd be the first player to go the SPL over the EPL to make a fortune in that case.

"Hey, you take it easy white boy. In French Guyana this isa whatta we call a nice For-Tune. Bye bye to you! Jealous."

**eirebhoy** · 27/08/2009, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by Oink

Very impressive last night, though he seems to get the most return when cutting inside from the wing. He's not particularily good at starting wide, beating the full back and whipping the ball in... which unfortunately seems to be what he's told/forced to do with Ireland.

McGeady said differently:
"At Celtic (under Strachan) I play out wide - and am told to stay out there - but with Ireland, Trapattoni wants me to come inside."

"It's not a playmaker role, but if I haven't seen much of the ball during the game he encourages me to come inside and try and pick up possession infield. He sees me doing more damage in the middle."

Mowbray has given him a target of at least 10 goals this season and doesn't really want his wide player sticking to any system. McGeady is loving it.

Houghton and the like do my head in with this tracking back lark. They actually put a bit of blame on him for Eduardo's peno because Clichy beat him to a pass. He's not a winger under Mowbray and, like the wide players at Man Utd and Barca, doesn't have to be tracking back all the time.

**Scram** · 28/08/2009, 8:23 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

was at the game also and would agree that mcgeady out of all the players i though stood out, on both sides. Caldwell is unbeleiveably bad.

Isn't he shocking!!...i.e. Caldwell, unbeievbly poor in both games, the 1st he lost because of an absolutely STUPID free kick.

McGeady definitely stood out, I'd just like to have a chip placed in his head so at the last moment he gets a little shock that forces him to look up, because when he beat 4 Arsenal players and had a shot, he had much more time than he realised and didn't have to just depend on "knowing where the goal is"

**irishfan86** · 28/08/2009, 8:26 AM

Originally Posted by Scram

Isn't he shocking!!...i.e. Caldwell, unbeievbly poor in both games, the 1st he lost because of an absolutely STUPID free kick.

McGeady definitely stood out, I'd just like to have a chip placed in his head so at the last moment he gets a little shock that forces him to look up, because when he beat 4 Arsenal players and had a shot, he had much more time than he realised and didn't have to just depend on "knowing where the goal is"

If we're thinking of the same play, I feel that he made the right decision to take a shot when he did, and if you look at the replay, he really didn't miss by much.

**Scram** · 28/08/2009, 8:59 AM

Originally Posted by irishfan86

If we're thinking of the same play, I feel that he made the right decision to take a shot when he did, and if you look at the replay, he really didn't miss by much.

If he had looked up, he would have scored.

**Razors left peg** · 30/08/2009, 12:52 PM

Modric is out for 6 weeks with fracture fibula,I wonder will this lead to Redknapp making a bid for McGeady

**superfrank** · 30/08/2009, 2:44 PM

McGeady sent off today. Didn't see the first yellow but from one angle of the replays they showed, it looked like he dived. He didn't complain either so to me he's got guilty written all over him.

**Stuttgart88** · 30/08/2009, 4:58 PM

Teletext says it was harsh. In general I think even if there was no contact it doesn't automatically mean it's a dive - and more often than not I think it should be a foul. Often you're dodging the contact - that's why you go down.

**superfrank** · 30/08/2009, 5:02 PM

A foul for no contact? Is that what you're saying?

**dr_peepee** · 30/08/2009, 5:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Teletext says it was harsh. In general I think even if there was no contact it doesn't automatically mean it's a dive - and more often than not I think it should be a foul. Often you're dodging the contact - that's why you go down.

Exactly.. Had this argument a couple of years ago after Ronaldo won a peno for United against Middlesboro, and I'm not a united fan. There shouldn;t need to be contact. I dunno what the official stance is though...

**Scram** · 30/08/2009, 5:53 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Teletext says it was harsh. In general I think even if there was no contact it doesn't automatically mean it's a dive - and more often than not I think it should be a foul. Often you're dodging the contact - that's why you go down.

Saw it, he jumped out of the way and wasn't looking for ANYTHING. Referee should be suspended, idiot.

**Stuttgart88** · 30/08/2009, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

A foul for no contact? Is that what you're saying?

Exactly what I'm saying.

For me the most clear cut example was David Seaman against Jan Koller in Dortmund in a CL game about 10 years ago. Just like Almunia yesterday, Seaman rashly chased a through ball & was beaten to it by Koller. Koller touched it around Seaman and would probably have scored had Seaman not dived in front of him, missing the ball. Koller had no choice but avoid Seaman's lunge and dived over him evading the tackle. A penalty was rightly given but the UK commentators branded Koller a cheat. I'm an Arsenal fan and thought it was a nailed on penalty.

I'll see if it's on youtube.

I think that if you go to ground to win a tackle and miss, but causing the attacking player to lose possession, it should be a foul in most cases.

**Stuttgart88** · 30/08/2009, 6:37 PM

I guess what I'm trying to say is that not all going to ground without contact is cheating and that you don't have to actually take a guy out to make a foul.

Take the Fletcher on Arshavin incident yesterday. I don't think anyone thinks it wasn't a penalty, despite Fletcher eventually getting some of the ball.

Now, what would have happened if Arshavin had been a bit quicker and dived out of the way seeing Fletcher's lunge coming? It would still have been every bit as much of a foul in my opinion.

**celticV3** · 30/08/2009, 7:01 PM

Heres a youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ETBbgGGXg

From the other angle http://i18.photobucket.com/player.sw...sentoff_00.flv

**Eirambler** · 30/08/2009, 9:34 PM

Have to say I think McGeady only has himself to blame for that one. He wasn't touched so there was no reason for him to fall. If he kept going he might have been bodychecked but he didn't stay on his feet long enough to find out.

He was already on a yellow and Celtic were winning the game, so it was a stupid thing to do.

Would still like to see him go to the premiership but its looking less likely by the day. He could be a truly outstanding winger, but he'll never develop to his full potential in the SPL, and will always struggle with the step up to international level as long as he is playing there.

**Stuttgart88** · 31/08/2009, 7:54 AM

AS said above, I'm all for allowing players the benefit of the doubt in that just because they go to ground it doesn't mean they've dived. On looking at that replay however, it looks to me like McGeady was anticipating a tackle that never materialised and was trying to win a free.

**Scram** · 31/08/2009, 8:16 AM

If Aidan McGeady was a Scottish internatioanl playing for Rangers, there is ABSOLUTELY no way he would have been sent off.

He may have been tired and avoided contact but before taking the ultimate decision of a sending off, it should be much, much clearer that there was intent to win a free as with Eduardo leaving his foot in on Boruc to gain a penalty...clear intent to cheat.

**eirebhoy** · 31/08/2009, 2:06 PM

It's the first time I seen the incident but it just shows you that a lot of it must be instinct because McGeady is one who wouldn't dive if he had the chance think about it.

**an_ceannaire** · 31/08/2009, 2:17 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

was at the game also and would agree that mcgeady out of all the players i though stood out, on both sides. Caldwell is unbeleiveably bad.

Completely agree, and yet he wont the PFA and the Writers player of the year for the SPL last year.........words fail me!!!

**an_ceannaire** · 31/08/2009, 2:19 PM

Originally Posted by Scram

If Aidan McGeady was a Scottish internatioanl playing for Rangers, there is ABSOLUTELY no way he would have been sent off.

He may have been tired and avoided contact but before taking the ultimate decision of a sending off, it should be much, much clearer that there was intent to win a free as with Eduardo leaving his foot in on Boruc to gain a penalty...clear intent to cheat.

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