Quoteheard he is putting in a transfer request for Ben Tatcher
It will be interesting to see the Wolves v Sunderland game. McCarthy V Keane II
heard he is putting in a transfer request for Ben Tatcher
Ahem, steady on lads.
Firstly, this news is a lot of hot air atm. Neither Quinn, Keane, Kennedy, or the Sunderland board have made any statements confirming this "news" as of yet. Atm, it's a bit like the "news" that Terry Venables would be the new coach of Ireland. Or the recent "news" that Owen Hargreaves would leave Bayern Munich, and the other "news" that Ronaldo was joining Real Madrid. None of which turned out to be news at all. But this "story" has got Sky a few extra viewers, I see.
Secondly, I can't see why Keane would work for Quinn. They're not exactly best mates now, are they??
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Quinn obviously has no pride. That attempted handshake taught me that. To hire someone who called him Mother Teresa and a Muppet
Interesting. Talk of Brian Kidd being his right hand man.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
If he does get the job they should take odds on how quickly Keane will walk out on them.....
I very rarely comment on speculation but this has been carried by all the news agency and local journalist were on saying it is a done deal They also mention Kidd as assistant so I think it has all the signs that it is going to happen.
I could not believe it when I heard it. I never thought that Quinn or Keane would work with each other. Maybe Quinn working with Keane, because as Owls Fans hints at Quinn does not let principles get in the way of things. Brady and Giles this morning were saying that they feel that the Quinn is the spokesperson but is not really pulling the strings at the club and that the backers are the ones who are the main reason Keane is coming on board.
What it will do is make interesting watching over the next few months and lets hope its good for the Irish lads at the club.
In Trap we trust
If its true and tbh i hope it is i wish them the best of luck.
That is 100& correct. It's a good move by them IMO. Traitor's stature in the english game will ensure they can sign some good players.Originally Posted by NeilMcD
KOH
Can we only deal in the facts please. Nobody has been appointed yet.
reaction on the sunderland forum original wasn't great but now the majority are all for it..the lads on gift grub must be delighted..radio roy is back
Bring back the plank
10 classic Roy Keane rants
The man set to be the next Sunderland manager has never been afraid to speak his mind, as these legendary outbursts show :
1) THE ONE THAT GOT ROY THROWN OUT OF WORLD CUP:
Keane temporarily quits international football after a monumental slanging match with Republic of Ireland boss Mick McCarthy, in front of his team-mates in Saipan. Keane had expressed his frustrations with the side's preparations for the 2002 World Cup to the Irish Times, telling them: "You've seen the training pitch and I'm not being a prima donna. Training pitch, travel arrangements, getting through the bloody airport when we were leaving, it's the combination of things. I would never say 'that's the reason or this is the reason', but enough is enough."
That interview led to a furious row, during which Keane told McCarthy. "Mick, you're a liar... you're a ****ing ******. I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a ****ing ****** and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country! You can stick it up your ********."
2) THE ONE THAT LED TO ROY LEAVING MANCHESTER UNITED
Keane leaves Manchester United after attacking seven of his team-mates on the club's TV channel, MUTV. Keane's most stinging vitriol was reserved for Ferguson's record signing, Rio Ferdinand. "Just because you are paid £120,000-a-week and play well for 20 minutes against Tottenham, you think you are a superstar," Keane said. "The younger players have been let down by some of the more experienced players. They are just not leading. There is a shortage of characters in this team. It seems to be in this club that you have to play badly to be rewarded. Maybe that is what I should do when I come back. Play badly." Not surprisingly the video, originally scheduled as part of the Roy Keane Plays the Pundit slot on MUTV, was pulled at the insistence of manager Sir Alex Ferguson.
3) THE ONE WITH THE SNAPPED LIGAMENT
After Keane suffered a season-ending knee injury while trying to trip up Alf Inge Halaand in September 1997, the Irishman stewed for three years before exacting his revenge in the Manchester derby. "I'd waited long enough. I ****ing hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you ****," he recalled in his autobiography in 2002. "And don't ever stand over me again sneering about fake injuries. And tell your pal [David] Wetherall there's some for him as well. I didn't wait for Mr Elleray to show the red card. I turned and walked to the dressing room."
4) THE ONE WITH THE PRAWN SANDWICH:
Keane hits out at sections of United's support in the wake of what he felt was a dire atmosphere in the club's Champions League clash with Dynamo Kiev in 2000. "Sometimes you wonder, do they understand the game of football?" he splutters. "We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on. At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans. But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch. I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell 'football', never mind understand it."
5) THE ONE WITH THE RUN-IN WITH BIG JACK:
Even as a teenager, Keane is not afraid to stand up to authority. Following a friendly against the United States in Boston in 1991, the Republic of Ireland team are allowed a night out. The next morning, with departure set for 7.30am, the team are kept waiting until 8am by Keane. A furious Jack Charlton says: "Nineteen years old, your first trip, do you have any idea how long we have been waiting?" Keane replies, without a hint of fear: "I didn't ask you to wait, did I?"
6) THE ONE WITH THE LETTER:
In 2000, Manchester United write a letter to fans blaming Roy Keane's new £52,000-a-week contract for the hike in season ticket prices. Roy, unsurprisingly, isn't happy. "I'm not one for holding grudges but this was a stupid mistake, a bad public relations exercise and something that should never have happened," he thunders. "I'm still waiting for my apology but I could be waiting a long time. The board have tried to explain what they meant, that it was part of a wider picture of trying to keep the fans informed, telling them the club wanted to rebuild and strengthen, which is why prices were going up. The fact is nobody should be singled out in a letter. It wasn't right. I felt everything was being laid at my door."
7) THE ONE WHERE PLAYERS ARE "PIECES OF MEAT"
It's 2002, and Jaap Stam's £16.5m departure to Lazio finds Roy unhappy. Again. "His transfer to Lazio illustrates how little power footballers have in the game. Contracts mean nothing," he fumes. "He has discovered that, to football clubs, players are just expensive pieces of meat. The harsh realities remain and when a club decide they want to sell there is little you can do once the wheels are in motion."
8) THE ONE WHERE ROY PROVES TO BE A FORTUNE TELLER:
Just prior to United's make-or-break Premiership showdown with Arsenal in 2002, Keane questions the desire of some of his team-mates and warns - prophetically as it turns out - the Red Devils could end the season without a trophy. "There are a lot of cover-ups sometimes and players need to stand up and be counted," he admits. "I'm not sure that happens a lot at this club. That's the least we should do. We shouldn't have to demand it from the players - they should be proud to play and give 100%. We're not asking for miracles. We're asking them to do what they should be doing. When players don't do that it's bloody frustrating. We're going to find it hard to win the league and if we end up with no trophies there's something wrong."
9) THE ONE WHERE HE BLAMES THE YOUNGSTERS
As United lose their grip on their Premiership title in 2004, Keane rounds on unidentified younger players, accusing them of not pulling their weight. "We have one or two young players who have done very little in the game," he spits. "They need to remember that and not slack off. They need to remember just how lucky we all are to play for Manchester United and show that out on the pitch."
10) THE ONE WITH THE IRISH BLAZERS: In 2001, Keane hints he might quit the international stage if Republic of Ireland officials continue to treat the squad like second-class citizens. Fresh from a brilliant performance in a 4-0 thrashing of Cyprus, Keane blasts the FAI. "Where we trained last Monday, in Clonshaugh, was abysmal and it has been for as long as I've known it," he says. "I was fairly critical about our seating arrangements on the flight out here, when the officials were sitting in the first-class seats and the players were sitting behind. For me that's simply not right and it's not just because I'm playing for Manchester United. The priority has to be the team - and I don't think that has always been the case here."
I think it's fair to say that he'd HAD it with that motherf***ing manager at that motherf***ing World Cup!
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"traitor"
Good luck to him
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so there was a problem with the worldcup too as well as our mick
He had a problem with your mick bein cold blooded and sneaky and slithery.........
s players or personalities, Niall Quinn and Roy Keane share few similarities.
But it seems the former Republic of Ireland team-mates, who had a spectacular falling out before the 2002 World Cup finals, are about to become unlikely bed-fellows at the Stadium of Light.
With Sunderland chairman Quinn set to appoint Keane as the manager to turn his struggling club around, BBC Sport takes a look at the history of the Black Cats' proposed pairing.
PERSONALITY CLASH
Quinn is the genial giant who has laughed and joked his way through life. Keane is the angry ant who even when things were going well was never far away from a scowl.
Roy Keane
Keane preferred walking the dog to spending time with his team-mates
During his spell as a Sunderland player, Quinn could often be found in a pub chatting to the locals about everything from horse racing to politics.
In contrast, Keane wanted nothing more than to be left alone to walk his dogs.
As a player, Quinn gained success through a deft touch and a fine reading of the game, happy to admit that he was never one of the most dedicated when it came to cross-country runs.
Keane was the fierce competitor, not content unless his team-mates were also squeezing out every last drop of effort.
Off the field, Quinn, seen as one of the brightest and most articulate of footballers, rarely had a bad word for anyone or anything, and few have had a bad word about him.
Keane is a man of few kind words, from managers to the media, from team-mates to opponents.
Even his own fans did not escape his wrath, with his famous "prawn sandwich" tirade about Manchester United's supporters.
WORLD CUP FINALS FALL-OUT
In the summer of 2002, Keane attracted criticism for skipping Quinn's testimonial in Sunderland.
The midfielder, who had refused to contribute to the programme notes for the game over a spat with a journalist, was injured but still expected to show his face.
In turn, Quinn was one of the senior players that Keane felt had refused to back him in his quest to improve Ireland's facilities.
But all that was just the eye of the storm that was to follow when Keane and Republic of Ireland manager Mick McCarthy fell out ahead of the World Cup finals in Japan.
Quinn found himself stuck in the middle of the Saipan controversy.
Quinn and Keane share an agent in Michael Kennedy and the big striker became a mediator in trying to broker a peace deal.
And when Quinn was ultimately forced to take sides he threw his backing behind manager McCarthy.
In Keane's eyes you are either with him or against him - and Quinn was very much against him.
THE AFTERMATH
Both Quinn and Keane aired their views through the media over the saga that split a nation.
Here's what they had to say about each other:
Keane on Quinn:
"Niall Quinn going on TV and saying that he was shattered from it, saying he hadn't slept. Did he think it was a walk in the park for me coming back to Ireland, what my family and kids had to go through?
"He's sitting on TV pretending to wipe a tear from his eye. He deserves an Oscar that fella, making out to be Mother Teresa. People don't know half of it."
Quinn on Keane:
"How do you measure professionalism? By how much pasta you eat? Bleep tests? Abstinence? The ability to get on with it no matter what the circumstances?
"Walking out on your team before the greatest games of their lives?
"We all take responsibility for ourselves. Roy left us in Saipan, not the other way round. And he punished himself more than any of us by not coming back."
But in his autobiography, Quinn's admiration for Keane shone through, even for the way he dismantled McCarthy in front of the Irish squad.
"People talk about Irish patriot Robert Emmet's speech from the dock. They talk about the oratory of Brendan Behan, Eamon de Valera, Michael Collins.
"But Roy Keane's 10-minute oration can be mentioned in the same breath. It was clinical, fierce, earth-shattering to the person on the end of it and it ultimately caused a huge controversy in Irish society."
In August 2002, Keane and Quinn had agreed to shake hands in front of the world when Manchester United visited Sunderland.
But their attempt to make a public reconciliation fell flat when Keane was sent off after being wound-up by Jason McAteer.
Quinn attempted to speak to Keane only to receive the hairdryer treatment from United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, who had misread the situation.
UPSTAIRS-DOWNSTAIRS
Quinn once said of Keane: "His weakness is his unforgiving attitude to his team-mates. That's where Roy and I will always differ."
Niall Quinn
Quinn hopes Keane can help him turnaround the club
But with the hatchet now seemingly buried, the two opposites appear to be an attractive proposition for a club who have suffered a dramatic demise.
Keane and Quinn will either prove to be the ideal good cop-bad cop partnership that Sunderland need or a high-stakes gamble with the potential to go spectacularly wrong.
McAteer once admitted that players raise their game for fear of upsetting Keane.
It will certainly offer something for Sunderland's under-performing players to think about in the coming weeks.
If anything, it promises to be an interesting period for all concerned, in particular when Sunderland make the trip to face Mick McCarthy's Wolves side on 25 November.
In Trap we trust
what was that from, Punch magazine?
Right, I'll come out and say it: It'll be interesting to see the next Wolves clash with Sunderland.
Now, no mention of the Keane/McCarthy thing please.
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