It's a pity for Sunderland they couldn't get Keane in earlier. Quinn's stint is like starting off with minus 12 points for Keane.
"Sunderland is a nothing club and Niall Quinn/ Mother Thersa is a Muppet."Originally Posted by renovater
I always stand up for what pays me £2m a year.
I admire Roy Keane in many other ways, not least his now apparent ability to reflect on past events and move on, even if it did take time.
His greatest talent is his ability to win and to get others to win also.
In Trap we trust
his two greatest talents are his ability to win and his ability to get others to win also..............and his ability to attract better players to the club.....his three greatest talents......
Or as others might say, not me of course, he mouths off at anyone or anything that annoys him or doesn't agree with - not necessarily an admirable trait but you can put your own spin on it.
Back to reality today as they struggled to a draw at home to Leicester.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Article I just saw, adds comment on Billy Clarke, Irish U19 international playing well at ipswich:
KEANE HAPPY TO USE MENTORS' INFLUENCE
By Damian Spellman, PA Sport
Sunderland boss Roy Keane will adopt the firm but fair approach he received
from Brian Clough and Sir Alex Ferguson as he hones his management style.
The 35-year-old, who had a fearsome reputation on the pitch, has insisted he
will not be afraid to lay down the law when it is required, but will not be too
hard on this players.
Keane said: ``I would always try to give the players the benefit of the doubt.
The one thing I have learnt from Brian Clough and Alex Ferguson is I always
thought they were fairly fair.
``If you made a mistake, they were quite happy to put their arm around you but
eventually, they would come down hard on you.
``That is all you want as a player. If the manager is fair with you, you have
no complaints.''
Keane's comments come in a week that marks the second anniversary of Clough's
death, and he retains an enormous fondness for the former Nottingham Forest
manager.
He said: ``He gave me my chance. He brought me over from Ireland and threw me
into the first team when I think all the other coaching staff were doubting
him.
``But there you go, he followed his instinct - and what a genius he was!
``People keep going on about him as a football manager, but I will always
remember the stuff he did for me as a person especially when my family was
coming over or if I wanted to go home. He was brilliant like that.
``Anything I wanted, he looked after me - but then again, when I did step out
of line, he came down hard on me.
``I found him to be a very fair man, and obviously, he is sadly missed.''
Meanwhile, Keane is battling a growing injury crisis after losing full-back
Stephen Wright until Christmas.
The 26-year-old former Liverpool defender underwent surgery yesterday - his
third operation in the last two years - and will be sidelined for 12 weeks.
It is the latest in a series of blows for Keane, who despite the sizeable
squad with which he started his new career, has a major headache for Saturday's
Coca-Cola Championship trip to Ipswich.
Strikers David Connolly, Stephen Elliott and Daryl Murphy are out with thigh,
ankle and hamstring problems respectively, while Jon Stead is rated at only
50-50 with a stomach strain and Chris Brown is touch and go with an ankle
injury.
That could leave Keane with only 34-year-old Dwight Yorke and newcomer Kevin
Smith available as he looks to continue his unbeaten start at Portman Road.
However, the Irishman is confident that former Manchester United team-mate
Yorke, who made his debut as a first-half substitute in the 1-1 draw with
Leicester last week, will rise to the challenge.
Keane said: ``I do not think we should expect too much too soon.
``But I thought he did very well last week and it was a big plus that he got
through 80 minutes and he kept going right to the end.
``His fitness levels were decent, and I am sure that extra bit of sharpness
will come over the next few games.''
Saturday's game could see 18-year-old Ipswich midfielder Billy Clarke finally
achieve his dream.
The Cork-born player was a huge fan of his compatriot and reportedly knocked
on Keane's mother's door as a 13-year-old to tell the Republic of Ireland
international his ambition was to come up against him one day.
Keane said: ``I do not remember that - I do not remember last week! He is
playing for Ipswich?
``It will be nice to meet up with him. Maybe I could have carried on a bit
longer and played in another year or two.
``That is great. I will look forward to meeting him.''
Just a thought
I wonder what kind of reception the new Keane-loving fans of Sunderland that travel over for the Wolves game will give Mick McCarthy and how this will go down with the Sunderland fans who still hold Mick in high esteem
Was at the Stadium of Light yesterday to see the Owls go bottom of the Championship
Was impressed with Liam Lawrence out on the right and he also took most of their deadball kicks. Cunningham stood out above most - shame he's retired. Seldom gave the ball away and did his defensive duties well. Connolly and Miller can on late in the game (the latter almost gifting a chance to Wednesday). Murphy did ok but was subbed near the end. No sign of Whelan for the Owls - not even on the bench. Coughlan was his usual gritty self at centre-half and didn't do badly.
Fair smattering of green among the fans and a few Irish accents and they're now selling a half green and red shirt.
Sonia O'Sullivan was introduced to the fans at half time as she was doing the Great North Run for dogs for the blind. She got a good welcome from the fans although I couldn't hear a word she said over the PA. Keane mentioned her in his programme notes. He was looking fit and slim and very relaxed on the bench - only came to the sideline about 5 or 6 times during the game - Sturrock spent the whole game standing there but then he had more problems
Wednesday fans were great. Had sold their full allocation and kept going throughout despite being long suffering. A few lost it though when SUnderland scored and were arrested in a fairly robust way by the police.
Last edited by OwlsFan; 01/10/2006 at 10:37 AM.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Poor Rory Delap broke a leg in last night's defeat by Stoke 2-1.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Apparantly he played a stormer for Stoke in his debut game last week.
Anyone notice that Mick is ticking away nicely at the opposite end of the table to Keane with a worst set of players.
63.00
Media wont like that.
KOH
Mick's Wolves have been on the slide of late (could only draw against the Owls on Saturday) while Keane's Black Cats are going the other way. It looks like it will be mid-table clash when the two meet.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I actually agree with something he says. I wonder who the Irish players are he is referrring to.
Roy Keane blasts "cheats and divers"
LONDON (Reuters) - Former Manchester United captain Roy Keane believes the Premier League is being ruined by what he sees as an epidemic of cheating and diving.
Keane, now manager of second division Sunderland, told newspapers on Friday that the problem was so bad he would be "pulling his hair out" if he was still playing.
"Players are conning each other, I'm glad I'm not playing any more, especially in the Premiership," the former tough-tackling midfielder said.
"There's a lot of sneaky stuff going on that makes it hard for referees.
"I can't get my head round a player who rolls around then gets up 30 seconds later. I'd be embarrassed. That's cheating, trying to get another player in trouble."
Keane, 35, expressed some sympathy for under-fire referees and said club managers needed to take responsibility for the behaviour of their players.
He also said it was unfair to lay the blame on the huge foreign influx of players into English football.
"Everyone has got to take responsibility," he said. "Players have got to look to treat referees fairly.
"I'm on my high horse because I went and kicked a lot of players -- but I'm on about conning referees.
"There are a lot of players who are trying to pull one over the referee by diving or chasing the referee...I wouldn't give them the time of day.
"Everyone goes down the foreign route but there are plenty of lads who play for England, Scotland and Ireland who do it...it's not just a foreign thing. Lads I've played with go down like they've been shot and it drives me crazy."
However the former Ireland player, who was sent off 11 times in his career and had regular run-ins with referees, does agree with Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho that referees should explain their decisions after the game.
"Last week I tried to speak to a referee but they have nothing to do with you," Keane said. "Mourinho made a point, maybe refs should come and speak with the media. There's no harm in them explaining their decision."
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Keane himself was the first or one of the first to be booked for an obvious dive in the box when referees started a bit of a clampdown 2 or 3 years ago in the EPL.
Only remember him being booked for diving once, and that was the late 90's, away at Blackburn by Ellery. And that wasn't even a dive, just a sliding tackle that brought him down - no one appealed, not even the United fans behind that goal. Just Ellery being Ellery.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Just Ellery being Ellery.
The same MR ELLERY who gave a united a pen(foul outside the area) in the 1994 FA cup final
Magic moments for the Republic of Ireland ...Commentator Barry Davies ...june 1988!!
Your right about the game, the years are sprinting by. Can't remember the tackle, I do remember Hendry and the entire Blackburn defence were convinced that it was a dive and surrounded Keane pointing fingers at Roy. Usually means guilt implied with good reason, who in their right mind would falsely accuse Keane of cheating.
Interesting that he doesnt regard Ireland as a foreign country to the one he lives in.
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