If ever there was an argument for transfer to Summer soccer this winter was it.
Most teams have not played in 7-8 weeks. Very hard to keep players focused. Also very hard for managers & players who now have to make a 10-11 month commitment if they wish to be involved. I say bring on summer soccer. Can only improve quality of game in Clare if played during the dry season.
I'd have same view BUT there will always be some that will be against it.Originally Posted by Prem Rep!
Alot of teams will have players going on hols and National competions are played tru winter. The mayo league play in summer and they seem to cope so can't see why we can't. Good suggestion. Maybe you should put it to the Clare League commitee.
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Personally I'm 100% behind a move to summer soccer. Main sticking point is the national competitions. If summer soccer is to be sucessful then it needs a change from the FAI and every county. Otherwise for the bigger clubs who do well in the FAI and MJC it would become a 12 month season...playing lg in the summer and national cup in the winter.
Getting every county to change though is very doubtful...
no chance of it happening in clare ... 2 many teams have dual players with the gaa and they would not agree on summer league as it would clash with gaa season/ competitions ...
" football is a simple game "
It probably wouldn't be a problem for the majority of premier division clubs with the exception of moher celtic. However it could end a number of clubs in other divisions. However I accept the point that if a number of these players are just playing soccer to keep in shape for the gaa season that they shouldn't necessarily be facilitated.
Our match was called off because Lifford U17's were playing FAI on Sunday not because we have someone on the clare committee. Don't think our game would have been played anyway as a section of our pitch is still under water. I was at yere B maych on Sunday and thought the pitch held up well and that was the second game on it. Fair play to the ground staff!!
Regarding summer soccer would be to play leagues in May - August. FAI and MJ competitions kick off in september but are not a weekly occurence but at least clubs would know when they are scheduled to play and can plan around it. A player / manager knows that they will be playing every week during May- August period. Also they know that they will have a match once a month come September.
With summer soccer you could feasibly be handed your seasons fixture at the very beginning as you know there will be little or no cancelations due to weather.
Flip side of this is what we have experienced in the last 2 months where players cannot plan for anything because they have a fixture scheduled on the weekend. I think it would be better for all to know exactly when we play.
The Clare Schoolboy League is going summer football this June.Last issue was refs but they supported it enthusiastically.Heard all the above arguements. Gaa based clubs against it and it still has gone ahead.This needs to be raised at the next league meeting .There is no way that people who play GAA and treat football as a secondary sport can be allowed to hold back a move that is considered in the long term interest of the game.National competitions???Who has more success in them??Clare or Mayo???no chance of it happening in clare ... 2 many teams have dual players with the gaa and they would not agree on summer league as it would clash with gaa season/ competitions ...
"You'll not see nothing like the Shelbourne team"
just out of interest does anyone know how many matchs were called off at the weekend due to the pitchs being unplayable...
I eats the beef......
I agree, we have to make these decisions based on the long term interest of the game. The national cup arguement doesn't hold up, wheres the advantage of playing during the winter?? Newtowns last game was on 1st December in the FAI and next game is 14th JAN in the next round..you cant plan or prepare properly under these circumstances. Dec and jan have been a write off. League began in August and the season probably wont finish until June, with cup finals etc. Why not play our season between June and sept with the FAI & MJC cup places decided and teams still involved will know their schedule for the winter as FAI and MJC dates are pre-determined. There will be a few minor issues to sort out as were are included in the clare/kerry/desmond draw for FAI but surel;y that can be overcome easily enough. I have yet to hear an arguement against this that stands up beside benefits. Its our game, we play it and run it. If the majority decides in favour then it should happen.
you are only a loser when you stop trying. Playing sport does not build character, it reveals it.
[be 1 rule for lifford and another rule for the rest....[/QUOTE]
We were consulted and agreed to the postponement, no big deal.
Ok, I think most teams involved in Clare League would be in favour for a switch from winter to summer apart from a couple. If it was to be brought up in the next Clare League meeting do you think that it would be considered.
It would be very silly of the league not to switch as the current situation is a shambles with teams playing 1 or 2 games in a 2 month period.
If you're in the penalty area and don't know what to do with the ball, put it in the net and we'll discuss the options later
FORM IS TEMPORARY, CLASS IS PERMANENT
I have a bold and daring suggestion for the next Clare League agm with reference to the idea of summer soccer.
1) Season should be March to September because of the current G.A.A situation of the back door championship system and the unlikelihood of Clare Clubs playing club championship without their county players i.e no club championship games played in Clare from June till end of September.
2) Increase Division sizes to Premier -14 teams, Division 1 - 14 teams and 12 in division 2. No more promotion/relegation playoffs . Premier/div 1 three teams up- down , div1/div2 - 2 teams up and down
3) Games to be played on Monday evenings,friday evenings,saturday evenings and sundays. Should a team be unable to field a team or play if both teams agree they should play it at the next available date.
4) Cup and shield and league cup can be played after league finishes so teams can prepare for national and Munster competitions and it also allows Oscar Traynor to prepare properly.
I haven't seen the Clare League lately as I live in America but from what I've see and read here as well as Clare FM and the Clare people it needs a new lease of life my ideas are just suggestions so please free to add or delete any of my suggestions or add your own and give them to the Clare league.
pm if you me to add my name so you can give it to the league
its a long way from Mcdonough park to here
[QUOTE=reds exile;602011]I have a bold and daring suggestion for the next Clare League agm with reference to the idea of summer soccer.
1) Season should be March to September because of the current G.A.A situation of the back door championship system and the unlikelihood of Clare Clubs playing club championship without their county players i.e no club championship games played in Clare from June till end of September.
2) Increase Division sizes to Premier -14 teams, Division 1 - 14 teams and 12 in division 2. No more promotion/relegation playoffs . Premier/div 1 three teams up- down , div1/div2 - 2 teams up and down
3) Games to be played on Monday evenings,friday evenings,saturday evenings and sundays. Should a team be unable to field a team or play if both teams agree they should play it at the next available date.
Not bad ideas but you cannot include part 2 of 3).Clubs cannot be allowed to decide whether they want to play or not.If fixtures are made then they have to be stuck to and played.What could be allowed is the home team decide their home day??But that may also be adding to the unneeded complication of administration.
Question:
How many people ,on this site and agree that it is sensible to go to summer football ,are in a position to get their clubs to vote for it.Bearing in mind this would have to be agreed at a meeting before the AGM and that would possibly only allow this change at the end of next season??However if the goodwill was there next season could start straight away after the end of this one???
Furthermore I would leave out any other complications about cups and shield as the less other changes the better to facilitate an efficient change over.
The succesful clubs and the Oscar Traynor are well capable of sorting themselves out.
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"You'll not see nothing like the Shelbourne team"
[QUOTE=hacker;601167]It was 17s and youths.But I thought all cancellations were refused from now untill end of season as per recent notice from fixtures sec????
"You'll not see nothing like the Shelbourne team"
Paddy Dunne Ref: To recieve a Special Merit Award
I see in the Champion today the Paddy Dunne is to recieve a special Merit award for his contribution to soccer in Clare.
A very good article. Little did I know he managed Newmarket Celtic to the then Premier Title in 1972. That year the club won all 9 competitions in Clare.
He then took up the whistle and in association with Carol O' Neill (Turnpike side of Ennis) set up the Clare Soccer Referees Society.
Now I know there is no perfect Referee but I think Paddy Dunne deserves this special achievement award and personally I wish him the very best.
Great to see him back and in good health.
Take it easy ! (and if ur getting it easy Take it Again)
special merit award for contibution to clare soccer ... good job it was not a vote by players / managers / ex players .
fair play for him for sticking with it for so long ... trying to be as nice as possible here
" football is a simple game "
Lads,we have all been at the receiving end of one of Paddys " decisions"special merit award for contibution to clare soccer ... good job it was not a vote by players / managers / ex players .
fair play for him for sticking with it for so long ... trying to be as nice as possible here
but can we keep any negative thoughts to ourselves on this occasion and let the man enjoy this award. 40 years is an amazing achievement by any standards. Anyone that knows the man will agree that he is a gentleman off the pitch, fair play to him.
you are only a loser when you stop trying. Playing sport does not build character, it reveals it.
Lads,we have all been at the receiving end of one of Paddys " decisions"
but can we keep any negative thoughts to ourselves on this occasion and let the man enjoy this award. 40 years is an amazing achievement by any standards. Anyone that knows the man will agree that he is a gentleman off the pitch, fair play to him.
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A damn nice fella to meet off the pitch. Congrats to him on his superb achievement.
i know he is an gentleman off the pitch & yes it is a amazing achievement... but on the pitch is another story .. will leave it at thatLads,we have all been at the receiving end of one of Paddys " decisions"
but can we keep any negative thoughts to ourselves on this occasion and let the man enjoy this award. 40 years is an amazing achievement by any standards. Anyone that knows the man will agree that he is a gentleman off the pitch, fair play to him.
" football is a simple game "
In the next few weeks Willie Traceys dream will become a reality. As I predicted in my post last week Willie is a serious winger. Against Rock Rovers last Sunday Tracey raided down the right flank to cross it into his buddy Dino to slam it home.
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