Conway swung out from bring pulled back not even sure that he ment to hit Hartnett just push him away.
Pike should have been 3-0 up by half time. I think that when Conway was sent off that Regional came into the game(maybe he did them a favour by being sent off).
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I didn't say that hartnett was responsible for what happened and yes there are no team with 11 angels. i was just giving my view that Conways action were totally out of character, what was he frustrated about?.i was shocked to hear that ye conceeded from 1-0 up not your form at all.
he was frustrated because up until that point regional were getting the complete run around and chasing shadows, as often happens his sending off pulled them together and they took over from there, you couldnt have any arguments with their equaliser
Thought Regional deserved a point, especially playing without Danny Galvin, Mike Behan and Mark Sheahan for the game, Pike totally dominated the first half possession wise but throughout the whole game there wasn't any clear cut chances for either team, the sending off was deserved but i don' think it was a punch, Barry just swung his arm back as he was being pulled back by Hartnett, the ref did give a free out to Regional, nothing like the Earls incident that's for sure, Regional played the better football in second half without creating much until Frankie finished very well at the end.
All in all a good game to watch and a fair result.
Thats true. They set the precedent that if you punch a player you get 12 months. And rightly so.Originally Posted by backodanet
I imagine that council will have to go on the ref's report on the incident. If it was a slap as some of the posts are saying and the referee also says that, i dont think and doubt that anything like 12 months will be handed down. It Not as if he put him in the hospital looking fwd to a huge dental bill...
as conway was dancing through a few tackles , hartnett stuck with him and was dragging out of him (as goes on in the game) , as they tangled conway swung out with one arm and he was turning and swung a punch as hartnett was falling (still remember both players were running). There was intent to strike a player but not in the form of mr Earls (1 year) or Mr bennis (3 months) this year.
The ldmc have to wage where it meets on their scale of discipline and for me about a month should be givin for striking another player. By doing this the ldmc will clean up the game whihc has been lacking in recent years.
Now back to the real stuff, the game was a good keenly contested. pike should have been 3 up at half time. In the second half when conway was sent off, pike stopped working (maybe they thought the 3 points were in the bag) and regional controlled the ball. No real clear cut chances and from a set piece Frankie got a great strike from the resulting cross to level the game.
What hasn't been mentioned yet was pa mitchell's retaliation to the incident..it seemed as if he struck out at Conway when the melee insued and was very lucky to get only a yellow..Also Conway was leaving the field without complaint and was antagonised and abused by Droog.. The ref also saw this through the crowd of players but only gave him a warning.
"The theory of football is not just a study of how to win.Equally as important is how not to lose."
get your facts right.
mitchel pushed a player. which is only a yellow. If you think this deemed more , they MR Conway should be looking at a year suspension (weigh it up).
Droog did not abuse the player and actually said nothing. he was wrongly identified. One of the other pike players said something like 'it can only be a yellow' when the ref was getting the book out to deal with mitchel (probably in hope to pursuade the ref). the ref looked through the crowd of players and called Droog over. End of story.
It is amazing what some people hear and see at football matches (or make up)
a punch was thrown which is the exact same as the "earls incident" so he has to get the same ban!
From what i have read on this tread and from speaking to people at the match.there is no comparison between the 2 incidents.. lets try and be a little objective and not look thru blue tinted glasses..
a punch was thrown and u cant see the comparison between the incidents?
I doubt if Hartnett has to visit the dentist like Galvin had to.
EVERYTHING is black and white
Thats just textbook................
Maybe he has better gums......
PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL EITHER... LETS WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE REF HAS TO SAY
Was at the match...saw the incident, a punch was not thrown..P mitchell's reaction was wores than the actual incident, a good clean performance by both sides..to compare this to Earls incident is like comparing bateman to the Pike field
But you see that is the problem. Was Earls banned for the punch or for what resulted from the punch?
Earls threw a punch which I personally think should be an automatic 12month suspension. But he hit him so hard he knocked his teeth out.
If another player throws a punch but he doesnt do as much damage as what Earls done does that mean he should get a lesser sentence. I dont think it should.
A punch is a punch.
BTW I didnt see the Conway incident so I cant say anything about it. But my opinion is that if a punch is thrown no matter how hard the person deserves 12months.
yes a punch was thrown ! I can asure you of that !
the logic is right in what you are saying. Do you get your suspension on the injury caused to a player of the action. It has to be the action really.
So if conway does get a big ban it will be a sad thing but it will mean the league will have some sort of consistancy.
Would be interesting if the lDMC has a matrix of some sort,
2 yellows (off) = 1 match
1 red= 3 matches (depending on action)
spitting = 5 matches
punching = 3/6 months
head butting = 3/6 months
etc. at least everybody would know where they stand but at the moment you never know what you are going to get ? You can be lucky or not. Surely it should be more transparent!
Conway was trying to hold off Hartnett he raised his arm and caught him in the face happens every match, the lad went over to hartnett after his red card to apologise...The Earls incident was a cowardly punch..this was not.
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