Since when do we boo our own team?

[geysir]

Well, as booing is the thread topic. When Neil Lennon was booed at the NI V Norway game, listening to it on tv I would have sworn here was at least about a 1,000 doing the booing. Reports later say that there were just about 50 or so at it.
Do boo's resonate much more audibly than cheers?
Do booers have more passion in their voice translating into a low pitch sound that it appears as if 10 times the number are doing it?

[Forever Dreamin]

So you can only be a real supporter if you express your anger through slaughtering abuse at players. There are a few posters here who have posted and dont agreeing with the booing. How many of those have leprechaun hats and plastic hammers. I would reckon very few. In many ways the people who have the plastic hammers and Leprechan hats are the ones that boo and walk out early.

The only time you reall see leprechan outfits are at away games and I believe they add to the athmosphere, having worn one in Japan and Korea as my kids gave me a present of same on way over! What about the Dutch in the boiler suits? Are they not real supporters? Anything that adds colour is generally grand and i dont agree that just because a person goes OTT on the colours is any more or any less a supporter.

The reality is real supporters will support their team through thick and thin and will give 100% support at all times. I would never boo off a team nor leave early and reckon those that do should stay at home and give their tickets up to people who would give unconditional support!

Giles quit as Irish manager following a home game where he got disgusting personal abuse which his son had to listen to. I felt terribly embarrased / disgusted as I was on the south terrace and could see the young fellow a few feet infront of me (mind you I was only a year older at the time) cringing with the insults.

I wonder what makes people like that thick that choose to insult a player / manager and their family just because they dont like their performance?

[nshoop]

I didn't boo myself but I could understand it,they played with no passion or commitment.I have no problem with a team that gives 100% effort and gets hammered 4-0,I'd applaud them off the pitch,but those players didn't give a sh*te

[eirebhoy]

I didn't boo myself but I could understand it,they played with no passion or commitment.I have no problem with a team that gives 100% effort and gets hammered 4-0,I'd applaud them off the pitch,but those players didn't give a sh*te

Anyone in particular? Irish players will always give it their all. If we win then it's the opposition that didn't try, if we lose then our players didn't try. The players on Wednesday weren't good enough, end of story imo.

[bennocelt]

of course the irish fans should boo that performance, the players need to know that they were ****e, the fans shelled out a lot of money to see them, and the players gave them a performance like that?!

the irish fans always get behind the team, no matter, even when we lose, but that particular irish performance was out of the ordinary

jeez, what did ye expect........to give them a standing ovation
and i dont know how you expected them to sing, i mean home games are usually devoid of atmosphere anyway, without or without the team been hammered

[Cowboy]

of course the irish fans should boo that performance, the players need to know that they were ****e,

I think they knew that already

[eirebhoy]

jeez, what did ye expect........

What did you expect when you seen the teamsheet? I certainly knew we'd lose by at least 2 and wasn't suprised or disappointed leaving. That centre half partnership was the worst I can remember Ireland ever fielding. We'll have 9 or 10 more players available for the Germany match, most of them crucial players. Only O'Brien, Reid and McGeady from the team that started on Wednesday would be my team for the Germany game (I don't include Finnan as Finnan at left back isn't the same player as Finnan at right back).

Celtic lost 3-0 in Japan and 3-0 against Man Utd's 2nd team last month. I wasn't too bothered because I knew there was 7 or 8 players left out of the team. Liverpool lost 5-0 to a poor German team and then beat Chelsea when it mattered the following week. Germany lost 4-1 to Italy with most of their players available, imagine how the felt. Imagine how Sweden must feel losing 3-0 to us!

[geysir]

I had a look at some of the Dutch newspapers, supporters could send in their comments, some said - don't be getting carried away as it was only Ireland's b team or was it c.
ouch

[Roverstillidie]

seems like this is splitting into the usual foot.ie groups.

those (usually EL fans) who go to games every week and have a 'fan culture' that logically allows them to boo shíte when served up at €42 a ticket

and the, ahem, ole ole/barstool/leprechaun suit/event junkie/ semi regular match goer (choose as applicible) who seems to see games as an alternative to the cinema or a night in the pub, ie just a bit of entertainment.

you can argue that it was innapropriate to boo the players on that occasion, but to argue you have no right to get on any teams back when they serve that up is just plain plastic-hammerism.

[eirebhoy]

you can argue that it was innapropriate to boo the players on that occasion, but to argue you have no right to get on any teams back when they serve that up is just plain plastic-hammerism.

If you're not going to join in with a few songs then you shouldn't be booing imo.

[Roverstillidie]

If you're not going to join in with a few songs then you shouldn't be booing imo.

agreed, but not really what i was getting at

[DotTV]

seems like this is splitting into the usual foot.ie groups.

those (usually EL fans) who go to games every week and have a 'fan culture' that logically allows them to boo shíte when served up at €42 a ticket

and the, ahem, ole ole/barstool/leprechaun suit/event junkie/ semi regular match goer (choose as applicible) who seems to see games as an alternative to the cinema or a night in the pub, ie just a bit of entertainment.

you can argue that it was innapropriate to boo the players on that occasion, but to argue you have no right to get on any teams back when they serve that up is just plain plastic-hammerism.

And what does getting on the teams back achieve?
Nothing.
As eirebhoy said, nobody sings and then when things go wrong they're quick to boo.
It's when the team is down that they need the fans the most.
Its easy to sing when we're winning and then boo when we're losing.That's plain plastic-hammerism IMO

[Cosmo]

Going to lansdowne road since 1985 (since I was 3 and a half, haven't mmissed a handful of home matches since my first match) and wedenesday was the first time ive left a match with 15 minutes to go.

Pure fcuking ****e - people are entitled to their opinion, but that performance was fcuking muck and staunton looked clueless - he should never have been given the job imo

[slow2anger]

You are entitled to boo your team off the pitch if the performance is $hite. If there are hundreds/thousands doing it then obviously you are not alone in thinking it's $hite.

Maybe the prawn sandwich brigade won't boo as it is their first and only appearence at a game. But the supporter who spends all his/her cash travelling around the world supporting their country is entitled to boo. The 'oh it might hurt their feelings' or 'you can't boo your country' crowd are the same ones who clap when the opposition scores a goal at lansdowne road.

[Noelys Guitar]

The worst I have witnessed was Mick Martin getting booed everytime he touched the ball in a 3-3 home draw with Spain in 1983. He was blamed (wrongly) for allowing Spain into score (ashley Grimes was the guilty party). Giles was also booed near the end of his time with Ireland. as was Hand. Its going to happen. Getting beaten at home 4-0 to an average Dutch team is not good. But no points lost. If Staunton doesn't get this team playing as a team fairly soon (as in 2 weeks time) then expect more booing and plenty of words ending in er.

[zinedineontour]

You are entitled to boo your team off the pitch if the performance is $hite. If there are hundreds/thousands doing it then obviously you are not alone in thinking it's $hite.

Maybe the prawn sandwich brigade won't boo as it is their first and only appearence at a game. But the supporter who spends all his/her cash travelling around the world supporting their country is entitled to boo. The 'oh it might hurt their feelings' or 'you can't boo your country' crowd are the same ones who clap when the opposition scores a goal at lansdowne road.

Really dont agree with booing your own team . What good will it do ? Do you honestly think that the players out there were not trying ? There was no organisation on the field but that should have been sorted by the manager not the 11 on the field . Disgusted me on wed to hear our own fans booing us . First time in a while ive heard it . Not a nice trait from our " supporters " . Arjen Robben was he just booed cause he is far better than anyone we have ?

[dfx-]

Nothing supportive about booing your own team

Nothing supportive about lying to them by cheering them or keeping quiet when they were sh!te.

Robben was booed because of his diving reputation and rightly so if anyone wanted to as he is a diving cheating little.........player. (I didn't boo him however)

[rodoman]

Nobody expects us to be world beaters. Nobody expects us to go out and consistently play like one of the best teams in the world. All that anyone expects is that the players go out onto the pitch and give 100%, right from when the ref blows the whistle at the beginning of the game right up to when the 90 minutes is up. There was no passion shown whatsoever by most of the players out there last night. They deserved the boos they got.

I agee 100%. Saw them in Cyprus, and if they were allowed to wear watches on the pitch (Rolex's, Cartier's etc) they would have been looking at them to see when they were finished and could go off and they're holidays.
The rest of us spent €1000+ to see the nightmare.
God be with the days when we didn't have 'superstars' with the excepting of Shay, and we'd give it, pardon the pun 'A Lash'
4 months on a full contract these days will have the Ireland players set for life while the rest of us save and scrimp to see the B.I.G. get back to when we were the underdogs, like Cyprus, when our players had to put themselves in the shop window.
Now that their there, it's like 'do we really give a f**k', sure I'll still be on 20K a week, and that's not including bonuses.

ALL I WANT IS A HONEST 100% DISPLAY FROM THEM, NOT MUCH TO ASK IS IT.
Look at me signature !!!!!!!!!

[Cowboy]

Nothing supportive about lying to them by cheering them or keeping quiet when they were sh!te.

who said anything about lying to them and it was not vety quiet in the section I was in everytime a pass went astray. Point I'm making is calling yourself a supporter and then booing your own team is a contradiction. We live in a democracy, boo if you want but dont pretend its a positive act in any shape or form.

[el punter]

Booing the Ireland team at Lansdowne Road is nothing new, and was never more deserved than at the Holland game. As a sporting nation I take great in us being able to punch above our weight and make it difficult for classier outfits by playing with an exceptional drive, belief and heart. When someone who was been given the extremely precious accolade of representing my country fails to show a determination to put in a credible performance then I will boo them and apologize to no man for doing so.

I didn't expect us to win the match, but I demand that every Ireland team does the best they can. We could have lost 6-0 and I wouldn't have booed had the performance been genuine.