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    Killester awarded Dublin City tie

    Following the departure of Dublin City from the eircom League and all other domestic competitions the Football Association of Ireland's Domestic Committee have decided that Killester United have been awarded the 3rd round tie of the FAI Carlsberg Senior Challenge Cup and will progress to the Quarter Final draw at the end of August.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
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    the homeless are gonna be delighted.

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    Why werent DC's results in this expunged like the league ones??

    Hard luck on Monaghan

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    Strange decision, doesn't seem consistant with the stance taken for league games.
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    i think it's the right decision.

    Monaghan were beaten fairly and squarely in a cup competition. To let a side back into the cup after they had been fairly knocked out would have been madenss imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumi
    doesn't seem consistant with the stance taken for league games.
    FAI hypocrites.

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    I think Monaghan should have been allowed back in Dublin Citys place as effectively Dublin City were removed from the competition. It would be similar to Denmark taking the place of Yugoslavia in the 1992 European Championships.

    Its stupid to give a team a bye into the 1/4 finals.

    Consistency me arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumi
    Strange decision, doesn't seem consistant with the stance taken for league games.
    not really - it's usual in this situation for their opponents in the next round (or the drawn active round) to be awarded a Walkover


    This season's FA Cup sees two such instances:

    Match 89 - North Leigh v AFC Newbury
    (walkover for North Leigh – AFC Newbury removed)

    Match 90 - Henley Town v Epsom & Ewell
    (walkover for Epsom & Ewell – Henley Town removed)


    And going back a few years:
    Queen's Park v Vale of Leven (walkover)
    Queen's Park awarded Cup after Vale of Leven failed to appear
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost
    FAI hypocrites.
    FAI have nothing to do with the League situation - The League and Cup Competitions are administered by two different bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KildareFan
    Monaghan were beaten fairly and squarely in a cup competition. To let a side back into the cup after they had been fairly knocked out would have been madenss imho
    Derry were beaten fairly and squarely in a league game.

    Again no consistency

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    Quote Originally Posted by micls
    Derry were beaten fairly and squarely in a league game.

    Again no consistency

    FAI have nothing to do with the League situation - The League and Cup Competitions are administered by two different bodies.


    It's like saying that the Premiership Board of Control has powers to award games in the Nationwide Conference Cup
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    Derry were beaten fairly and squarely in a league game.

    Again no consistency
    Beaten fairly and squarly by a club with a team they should not have been able to assemble. Get over it as people explaining this to confused Cork fans is making you all seem foolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speranza
    Beaten fairly and squarly by a club with a team they should not have been able to assemble.
    I'd agree with that, and by the same logic we should still be in the Cup.

    The decision taken with regard to league points was the correct one imo. Some teams played DC at home, some played them away in the first round of games.

    However, I am prepared to accept the FAI decision graciously. As far as I am concerned, we were out of the Cup, then there was a glimmer of hope, now we're out of it again. Rightly or wrongly, the decision has been made.

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    No gripe with Killester, I would wish them the best in the competition and hope that they can go on to have a real crack at it in the quarters, but in the light of the league decision this is rediculous.

    AFAIU Dub City have withdrawn from the league and in doing so have also resigned their position within the Association, therefore there is a cross over. Not to mention the even more valid argument about beating us with a squad which was effectively assembled due to living way beyond means.

    Feck it, its not like we're not used to being out in the early rounds, but there is no consistancy yet again from the FAI on this.

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    Just a few points

    1. Most clubs in the league have assembled squads they cannot afford. Its only a few short years since Derry were up **** creek as a result of years of overspending. We cannot decide football matches on who overspends on the squad the least. Its up to the FAI to implement licensing properly so this doesnt happen. Some clubs are cash poor but asset rich so will get away with it.

    2. What would have happened if DCFC had lost to Killester, then went out of business? Should that be forgotten as well and Killester then had to play Monaghan? Or what if DCFC got to the FAI Cup semi finals before getting knocked out, then folding? Should the whole competition start again?


    The FAI made a decion on the competition they run [FAI Cup]. The eircom league [a separate body] made a decision on the competition they run [eircom league], and they made this decesion with some justification based on a precedent in England in the early 90's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    I think Monaghan should have been allowed back in Dublin Citys place as effectively Dublin City were removed from the competition. It would be similar to Denmark taking the place of Yugoslavia in the 1992 European Championships.

    Its stupid to give a team a bye into the 1/4 finals.
    there is no similarities at all. Denmark got admitted to a competition that had yet to start.

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    I am totally raging....yes we were knocked out after forcing City to a replay and bringing the game into extra time where finally City's superior fitness put the nail in our coffin...yes we are used to getting knocked out early...yes many teams are fielding players they cant afford...all of that aside, we deserved to be back in for the simple reason that the game between City and Killester hadnt been played yet and by not letting us in that is the equivilent of giving all teams in the Premier Division imaginary points for the games they have yet to play against the now non-existent DC. Feck sake.

    I cant believe that this decision could be considered the right one. I for one am fupin angry.

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    the decision is in line with pretty much every other cup that is played in the country from junior levels up. if a club goes out of existence, it always seems to be the team gets a bye in the next round. wether there are specific rules in place, i don't know, but it is the most sensible decision imo. once you have been knocked out fairly in a cup, then you should be out, no matter what happens later on.

    however, i wonder if the decision would have been different if it involved a bigger club?

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