UCD V Bohemians

**pineapple stu** · 30/07/2006, 8:58 PM

Handball is when -

(a) a player deliberately moves his hand in the way of the ball. I don't think this happened. Tony's hand didn't seem to move to the ball.
(b) A player deliberately doesn't move his hand out of the way of the ball. That certainly isn't the case here as there wasn't time to do that.

**Poor Student** · 30/07/2006, 9:01 PM

Right, my mistake, hmmmm, under those laws I'd say it wasn't. Ball definitely struck hand but there was no intention and nothing he could have done about it.

**Schumi** · 31/07/2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'm not missing the point at all.

The ground is signposted from the main entrance (where you're most likely to be driving in or walking in from the bus), the turn-off at the engineering block (where you'll need to park and walk down), from the Foster's Avenue entrance (where you may be driving to, or getting the bus to) and from the Sports Centre (where you may mistakenly end up).

The signs near the Stillorgan gate direct you to the athletics track from where you can't reach the ground anymore. You have to go through Glenomena now and there aren't any signs there.

**BohsFans** · 31/07/2006, 2:48 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'm not missing the point at all.

The ground is signposted from the main entrance (where you're most likely to be driving in or walking in from the bus), the turn-off at the engineering block (where you'll need to park and walk down), from the Foster's Avenue entrance (where you may be driving to, or getting the bus to) and from the Sports Centre (where you may mistakenly end up).

If you can't find it after all that...

It's a ****in nightmare to find from the bus stop that's what it is!

I'd say we'll be back there next season seems as nothing visible has happened on your new ground yet.

**BohsFans** · 31/07/2006, 2:52 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

That's never a penalty. You've contradicted yourself in saying that there wasn't anything Tony could do about it as well.

By handling the ball he stopped Wardy from getting past him and creating or shooting from a dangerous goalscoring position.
Penalty - end of.

Also try putting the shoe on the other foot, your striker going through in the last minute.

**Student Mullet** · 31/07/2006, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

It's a ****in nightmare to find from the bus stop that's what it is!

I'd say we'll be back there next season seems as nothing visible has happened on your new ground yet.

Belfield Park will be demolished as soon as planning comes in for the biotechnology centre so either way we won't be there next season. I noticed cycling in this morning that the campus signage on Fosters Avenue has already changed.

**pineapple stu** · 31/07/2006, 6:38 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

By handling the ball he stopped Wardy from getting past him and creating or shooting from a dangerous goalscoring position.
Penalty - end of.

I've given my take on it. Not all incidents of ball hitting hand are fouls. I honestly don't think Tony had enough time to react to the flick, and nor did he deliberately stick his hand up to block the ball. If you got a penalty everytime the ball hit your hand, football would consist of people walloping the ball at opponents' arms for 90 minutes.

Originally Posted by BohsFans

Also try putting the shoe on the other foot, your striker going through in the last minute.

**BohsFans** · 01/08/2006, 2:57 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You would scream penalty.

All semantics anyway, we've got the 3 points.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 01/08/2006, 3:03 PM

After seeing the incident on EL weekly if the laws of the game were implemented then no penalty should have been given.

However I think that the rules of the game regarding hand balls are ridiculous. Ward probably would have had possession of the ball and be in a position to cross the ball. The fact that it was ball-to-hand does not take away this fact. If a similar incident was to happen on the goal line and a goal was prevented, it wouldn't make sense not to award a penalty. I feel that the referee made his own decision on the hand ball incident, while still the right decision, should not have been given.

**pineapple stu** · 01/08/2006, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

You would scream penalty.

Funny then that there was bugger all of a shout from the Bohs fans and players. The noise appears to have been turned up on the highlights at that moment (as they have been known to do many times before)

Originally Posted by BohsFans

All semantics anyway, we've got the 3 points.

True...

**BohsFans** · 01/08/2006, 9:58 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Funny then that there was bugger all of a shout from the Bohs fans and players. The noise appears to have been turned up on the highlights at that moment (as they have been known to do many times before)

just accept it!

You always seem to look for something else that doesn't matter!

Was there a shout? Was the noise turned up?

Who cares.

**Aberdonian Stu** · 01/08/2006, 10:02 PM

Could the two of you just agree to differ please? It's obvious that neither one of you is going to change their view any time this century.

**BohsPartisan** · 02/08/2006, 7:54 AM

Once the arm is outstretched like it was it is a penalty. The interpretation is that you shouldn't have your arm out. If it was the other way around and you didn't get the penalty you'd be complaining and rightly so.
On the other issue, I spent 4 years "studying" at UCD and another 5 years working there and I get lost going to Belfield Park these days.

**bambi** · 02/08/2006, 12:03 PM

What about our clear penalty in the first half when digger was trying to clear the ball and sammon nicked it away and diggers follow through took sammon out!!! Anywhere else on the pitch and its a free. The ref bottled it as they always do with UCD.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 03/08/2006, 7:17 AM

I feel asleep during EL Weekly . A) were we on and if so B) how did the penalty incident on TV?

**pineapple stu** · 03/08/2006, 8:08 AM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

just accept it!

You always seem to look for something else that doesn't matter!

Was there a shout? Was the noise turned up?

Who cares.

So you note that if it'd been a Bohs defender who had done that, we would have "scream[ed] penalty", but when I point out that Bohs fans in the event did nothing of the sort, you throw a hysterical rant?

Fair enough.

**BohsPartisan** · 03/08/2006, 8:15 AM

eh, once again - clear penalty:
http://www.bohemians.ie/UCD%20V%20BO...2029-07-06.wmv

Particularly look at the bit about half way on where Mahon is being interviewed and it is shown with magnification.

**nshoop** · 03/08/2006, 5:14 PM

Having seen el weekly and bohs website I think it was a definite peno,his arm was up in the air and the bohs fella would've ran onto it

**BohsFans** · 05/08/2006, 4:34 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

So you note that if it'd been a Bohs defender who had done that, we would have "scream[ed] penalty", but when I point out that Bohs fans in the event did nothing of the sort, you throw a hysterical rant?

Fair enough.

you just proved my point pineapple!

Now let it go