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    Ground ownership or otherwise

    Ive just been reading another thread that got me thinking what is the situation with prem and first div grounds which are owned ,leased, borrowed or otherwise.
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by passerrby
    Ive just been reading another thread that got me thinking what is the situation with prem and first div grounds which are owned ,leased, borrowed or otherwise.
    Simply put they are either owned, leased, borrowed or otherwise.
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    Terryland Park is owned by the Galway & District League.
    Galway United are mere tannants.


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    Bohs - ground owned outright
    Bray - Owned by Town Council
    Cork City - Munster FA owns Turner's Cross? leased by CC?
    Derry - Brandywell owned by derry City Council
    Drogs - Owned by FAI
    Longford - Owned by club
    Pat's - Ground owned by people involved with the club, but who owns the club these days?
    Shels- F**K knows - its basically leased from DCC, but they've sold off some./ all of their interest to ?
    Sligo - owned by Trust in perpetuity for the club
    UCD - ground owned by college
    Waterford - RSC owned by WCC

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    Limerick's ground is held in trust by Fr. Joe Young and Hogan. We have a short lease and it is not looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain
    Limerick's ground is held in trust by Fr. Joe Young and Hogan. We have a short lease and it is not looking good.
    Yes agree and our short term lease is from the tennants of the ground a junior club called hill celtic. Great deals done reg sarrounding lands which will be all worth nothing if the lease isnt signed within the next few weeks/months.

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    taken from the sligorovers.com Taken from here

    Sligo Rovers is the first major soccer club in Europe to operate on co-operative principles. Since 1998, it has been owned and controlled by the community of Sligo and is operated solely for the benefit of the community.

    The home of Sligo Rovers, the Showgrounds, was purchased in 1968 by a trust foundation which ensures the ground can never be sold, mortgaged or used for any purpose other than sport and leisure

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stars
    major soccer club in Europe
    No Comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nshoop
    not my words...from sligorovers.com

    what do you expect them to put in
    "the first club in the North West of Ireland....."

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    Richmond Park is actually composed of four separate plots of land, on each of which Pats hold a sporting-use lease that doesn't expire until 2049. However the club is actively negotiating to acquire the freehold on as much as possible of the ground. Pats also own some of the land on the far side of the Camac outright.

    BTW, the same people own the club that have owned it for the last couple of years - the majority shareholders are Andy O'Callaghan and Gerry Mulvey.

    Please note the use of the present tense in all of the above.
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    we own Flancare Park.

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    Kilkenny City own Buckley Park 100%

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    To the best of my knowledge at the moment we own both St Mels Park and the new ground 100%, even though the new ground is being built under a different company ie Athlone Town Stadium Ltd. When we move into the new ground St Mels Park will be handed over to the local council as there was a land swap. Not a bad deal 10 acres of prime development land for our new ground in exchange for St Mels Park.

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    The Ramblers own St Colmans Park.

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    Funny that, the big clus own feck all and win the trophies and the small clubs win feck all and own their grounds - ah the conundrum of Irish soccer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
    Richmond Park is actually composed of four separate plots of land, on each of which Pats hold a sporting-use lease that doesn't expire until 2049. However the club is actively negotiating to acquire the freehold on as much as possible of the ground. Pats also own some of the land on the far side of the Camac outright.

    BTW, the same people own the club that have owned it for the last couple of years - the majority shareholders are Andy O'Callaghan and Gerry Mulvey.

    Please note the use of the present tense in all of the above.
    TBH I don't really understand Pats fans acceptance of Richmond now being secure from redevelopment as apartments. Of all the Dublin grounds it has the most obvious potential site value per acre (don't suppose you noticed that 9 storey apartment block next door!), could the purchase of mcDowells not be a sop to persuade fans you will always have a "presence" in Inchicore?

    Is it common knowledge who owns the leases on the lands of Richmond pk?, as opposed to the holding and trading companies of the club?

    Any insights much appreciated..

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    AFAIK Bray's ground is owned by Bray town council. Do the FAI own United Park in Drogheda? Think they used to anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad mongo
    TBH I don't really understand Pats fans acceptance of Richmond now being secure from redevelopment as apartments. Of all the Dublin grounds it has the most obvious potential site value per acre (don't suppose you noticed that 9 storey apartment block next door!), could the purchase of mcDowells not be a sop to persuade fans you will always have a "presence" in Inchicore?

    Is it common knowledge who owns the leases on the lands of Richmond pk?, as opposed to the holding and trading companies of the club?

    Any insights much appreciated..
    Where do you see that we've accepted anythign, most fans just said its a welcome development. A few here were involved in a meeting with the baord a couple of weeks ago and myself and wws were far from happy with the answers received. (although I don't think the "McDowells being Pats presence in Inchicore" is true). There were positives though and we haven't had them in a long time.

    Its not common knowledge but most active pats fans know who owns what (or at least 95% of it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    Where do you see that we've accepted anythign, most fans just said its a welcome development. A few here were involved in a meeting with the baord a couple of weeks ago and myself and wws were far from happy with the answers received. (although I don't think the "McDowells being Pats presence in Inchicore" is true). There were positives though and we haven't had them in a long time.

    Its not common knowledge but most active pats fans know who owns what (or at least 95% of it)
    Fair enough. I was under the impression that it was seen as nailed down by Pats fans that you are staying in Inchicore.

    Any talk of a "no-brainer" of selling up and heading out on the LUAS with a swag bag to Tallaght? Surprised you aren't being hussled to at least make noises in that direction to aid the Tallaght stadium Judicial review

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