QuoteWell O Leary did not leave a double life behind his wifes back for years.
Jesus, don't know about that, wouldn't trust O'leary as far as I could throw him. Wouldn't be Cascarinos biggest fan, but O'Leary is a spoofer, and you don't hear a lot of good things been said about him in the game..Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Well O Leary did not leave a double life behind his wifes back for years.
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what these guys get up to in their personal life is interesting but not very relevant, i concur with paul B , you dont hear many good things about o'leary as a manager . let's see how and if he resurrects his managerial career , downside is we will probably have to listen to him as a pundit for the next while !
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Cascarino is the one who brings up personal aspects in both his book and when talking about O Leary.
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I don't even find the personal life aspect of things interesting. If someone wants to play away fixtures that's an issue of personal morality and, I'll guess, private tragedy. That he'd trade on his transgressions in his rag of a book -even if his musings were dripping with regret, is a measure of the mans character. That's between him and his ex-wife and is absolutely none of my business.
O'leary will be managing a premiership club by halloween ...or will at very least have turned one down by then.
If he'd drop a division -I'd have him back at Leeds in a shot. ...a gig that might come available soon enough as well if things go tits up for Sheffield United in the premier and a move is made for Blackwell to replace Warnock.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Good post there totallfootball, the only reason that I brought up Cascarinos personal life is a) he wrote about it in his book so it was public knowledge and not hearsay and b) he writes makes personal remarks about O Leary and has a personal attack on O leary as a person rather than just leaving it to his football career which incidently is far superior to Cascarinos
So if we look at this logically
O Leary had a better playing career
O Leary had a better managerial career
He has not made personal attacks against Cascarino either in books or in paper.
Cascarino also deals in a murky world of poker where he is brought to the games blindfolded and the blindfold is only taken off when the arrive and then put back on the minute the game is over. He deals in a world of total gangsters.
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This coming from the man who is famous for not being able to write any column without working in even the most tenuous reference to himself or his past career!
neil, total
i like cas and i dont like o'leary and have been like that for the last 15 years and i havent read much to change my mind , seems like you guys want to shoot down cas then go for it but you can temper it with the fact that o'leary wrote "leeds on trial" that alone sets him apart as someone out to make money from other peoples misery
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
...I'm not going to defend the vile and indefensible 'Leeds United On Trial' -but seriously -is spilling the beans about backroom/dressing room/boardroom/courtroom incidents in O'Learys book now supposed to be worse than regailing us with tales about who you were knobbing behind the wifes back?
Has Cas kids? Does he not think his kids might pick that book up someday?
I like Po and La-La, am rather indifferent to Dipsy and think Tinky-Winky is nothing short of a cnut.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
lionel the preferences between cas and davo were picked up as a kid so definitely your telly tubby comparison rings true ,
i believe cas's son is called teddy after his mate teddy sheringham , i presume whenever he picks up the book he will think his old man was a bit of a waster and a jack the lad , look i'm not saying tony cas is the human perfection incarnate , i'm just saying i like him and enjoyed his warts and all book.
o'leary on the other hand is not my type of guy regardless of his excellent record as a player and any sympathy i have towards the fact that jack charlton exiled him.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
O Leary has never made comments about Cascarino as far as I can see so tell me what is Cascarino so pre-occupied with having a go at O Leary time and time again. I never read Leeds on trial but I think writing about a club when you are the manager of that club is always a bid of a dodgy thing to do.
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i agree , i am surprised cas came out with something personal like that but i suppose he needs to court the controversy to sell his column , not really defensible but now that the comments are in the public domain i see where he si coming from
as for davo he is nowhere near my all time footballing hate figure , step forward mr loius van gaal!!
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Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
He had an affair with his secretary (maybe nanny?) a few years back. Seem to remember it being big news when details of his filthy text messages were published. Be naive to think it was the first time.
Either way, O'Leary is a rubbish manager, and Cascirino is a decent journalist.
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O Leary got Leeds to Champions League semi final and did a good job with Villa for 2 years. Cascarino writes personal insults about ex team mates. Also was it proven about O leary and his affair or are you posting slanderous accusations against David O Leary. Has David O leary come out and admitted it.
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Seem to remember him issuing an apology.
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he got them to a cl semi final - and than bankrupted the club in the process (in fairness not his fault more the idiots who let him do it on the board)
Leeds are in oblivion ever since O Leary and his "success".
He is widely regarded as the worst Villa manager ever.
and surely you mean libelous and not slanderous accusations?
How is he the worst Villa manager ever he did not get them relegated and they were relegated in the 80s as far as I know. Also I dont think he was a great sucess as a manager but he has done ok jobs for the first few years but then things seem to go wrong for him. He is no angel and I am not fan of O learys. However if I was to criticise O Leary it woudl be on his managerial record. However Cascarino seems to want to have a go at O Leary the man every time. Thats fair enough but Cascarinos personality does not stand up to this scrutiny either. That is the point I will make.
Cascarino is a worst journalist that O Leary is a manager. Cascarino has never managed and he was not much of a player. In fact I would say O Leary beats Cascarino on every level
Player
Manager
Journalist
and as a person
If the correst term is libelous fair enough I stand corrected.
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I think they should have a wrestling tag team match between Mc Carthy/Cascarino and O Leary/Keane. Money could go to charity.
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How about "Big" Jack Charlton vs Eamon Dunphy also Roy Keane and a few beers vs Niall "The Creep" Quinn/Jason "Trigger" McAteer/"Mick "*****" McCarthy/Stephen "Stan" Staunton, with Tony Cascarino vs David O'Leary as the main event I would pay alot of money for that (Big Jack would kick Dunphy's ass, for sure)
(see they even all have aliases)
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No alias for Keane ? I could give him a few.
Why is Quinn a "creep" ? Seems a nice guy to me who donated his testimonial money to charity - perhaps that's the definition of a "creep".
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