Darron Gibson

**tetsujin1979** · 21/08/2012, 4:37 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Everton played a game of by-passing hte midfield, and getting the knock downs, like hitting the full forward in gaelic annd the corner forwards feeding off the knock downs and scraps, piennar and jelavic picking them up. What he did was fine, but it wasnt a throughfare from midfield.

BBC said it was osman with the corner in the match report.

Can you read?
From the match report on BBC Sport's website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19240566

The giant Belgian's towering 57th minute header from Darron Gibson's corner finally ended the defiance of United keeper David de Gea, who had kept Everton at bay with a series of outstanding first half saves.

**paul_oshea** · 21/08/2012, 5:00 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

It was a very GAA-like approach - the wingers and midfielders were so sure Fellaini would win every knock down that they could gamble on racing past him. It was 100% Gibson taking the corner though.

Maybe coleman is the tactician.

I know Tets, but i dont know why they put that in the report. Well the one i read last night said Osman, they must have updated the piece.

**tetsujin1979** · 21/08/2012, 6:41 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Maybe coleman is the tactician.

I know Tets, but i dont know why they put that in the report. Well the one i read last night said Gibson, they must have updated the piece.

you might want to read that again

**tricky_colour** · 21/08/2012, 7:17 PM

Great result for Everton Moyes, Gibson and indeed Coleman who was on the pitch when they scored,
doubt he changed the game but he was there nonetheless.

I wonder if Darren dropped off a bottle of wine for Sir Alex to drown his sorrows in ???

**SkStu** · 21/08/2012, 8:50 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Maybe coleman is the tactician.

I know Tets, but i dont know why they put that in the report. Well the one i read last night said Gibson, they must have updated the piece.

it was Gibson.

**geysir** · 21/08/2012, 9:16 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I know Tets, but i dont know why they put that in the report. Well the one i read last night said Gibson, they must have updated the piece.

Possibly (dare I say probably) you misread the report.

**paul_oshea** · 22/08/2012, 9:09 AM

No I definitely did not mis-read the report. Perhaps mis-wrote my report though

**geysir** · 22/08/2012, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

No I definitely did not mis-read the report. Perhaps mis-wrote my report though

Perhaps is a word 'used to express uncertainty or possibility'.

**John83** · 22/08/2012, 1:11 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

That's a bit harsh on Gibson. I thought he looked very impressive by any measure, not just against the poor opposition. And Cleverley arguably has as much Premier League experience than Gibson so he's hardly a kid.

I have to admit, I thought Cleverly was several years younger than he is, and that Gibson got more games than he did.

Originally Posted by liamoo11

Cleverly is 23 not a kid. Gibson is a very good footballer who never got a run of games at utd and was treated badly by the fans. He has played every game for everton since he joined in jan which has coincided with evertons excellent form. His passing is crisp and neat, he has good close control and he can see a pass. He works hard which you have to to get in to a Moyes team. What the hell else do we want?Gibson and Mccarthy are by far better footballers than whelan/andrews which is the reason andrews in in the championship. Also Gibson has made a big effort to play for the republic and yet seems to be hated by ireland fans

I agree he's done very well at Everton.

To answer your question, I want him to show that form for Ireland, and convince Trapattoni that he's that much better than a journeyman like Whelan.

**paul_oshea** · 22/08/2012, 1:58 PM

But has he done well, I mean he hasnt done badly and is keeping his position but has he done anything out of the ordinary, other than to suggest he may too turn into a PL journeyman.

**Charlie Darwin** · 22/08/2012, 2:10 PM

Yes, he has done well.

**liamoo11** · 22/08/2012, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

But has he done well, I mean he hasnt done badly and is keeping his position but has he done anything out of the ordinary, other than to suggest he may too turn into a PL journeyman.

Well this time last year lots of people seemed convinced he would be a championship journeyman so I guess PL journeyman is an improvement!If he spent the next 8 years playing every game he is available for in a top 8 premiership team then Id have to say that would be an excellent career and would most certainly mean he was worthy of one of the 2 or 3 centre midfield positions for ireland. I would be amazed but obviously delighted if over the next 8 years we have 3 other centre mids playing every game for a team in the top eight in the premier league.If he ran around like a lunatic and gave the ball away consistenty and then dived into crazy tackles and got sent off petulently when he was been schooled and played in the championship he would be loved by everyone but he would also be keith andrews . The price of love.

**paul_oshea** · 22/08/2012, 4:11 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Yes, he has done well.

OK then.

**SkStu** · 22/08/2012, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

But has he done well, I mean he hasnt done badly and is keeping his position but has he done anything out of the ordinary, other than to suggest he may too turn into a PL journeyman.

well if he hasn't done badly then the chances are he's done well.

**tetsujin1979** · 24/08/2012, 12:37 PM

The Importance of Darron Gibson, an opta stats analysis: http://www.eplindex.com/18008/everto...-analysis.html

**passinginterest** · 24/08/2012, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

The Importance of Darron Gibson, an opta stats analysis: http://www.eplindex.com/18008/everto...-analysis.html

Interesting read that. Particularly the comparison to Rodwell considering they played a similar amount of minutes (I suppose it might be interesting to see the teams they played against to see if there were mitigating factors).

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/08/2012, 12:53 PM

Looks like Phil Neville had a read of the same blog: http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soc...322931369.html

**paul_oshea** · 24/08/2012, 1:28 PM

Interestint stats, but that’s a poor pass completion when you consider that is his main aspect of his game should surely be up in the highn 80’s, Joe Allen over the 90% like Scholes

**passinginterest** · 24/08/2012, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Interestint stats, but that’s a poor pass completion when you consider that is his main aspect of his game should surely be up in the highn 80’s, Joe Allen over the 90% like Scholes

I think the key there is forward passes, passes in the opposition half and final third entires. He's being adventurous with his passing, so while his completion rate is slightly lower than Rodwell he's clearly doing it in more dangerous areas, where there's a higher risk of interceptions and blocks. It would be interesting to compare to someone like Allen.

**Charlie Darwin** · 24/08/2012, 1:35 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Interestint stats, but that’s a poor pass completion when you consider that is his main aspect of his game should surely be up in the highn 80’s, Joe Allen over the 90% like Scholes

He'd be more comparable to somebody like Gerrard than Allen, in that he does try the risky through-balls and passes over the top rather than playing the percentages all the time. As good a player as Allen is, his stats are so high primarily because his job is not to create.