QuoteWhatever your opinion, he was a lot less gash than Carrick.
Does Carrick play much for Man U?
You're joking me Geysir, he was total gash, vey disappointing performance.Originally Posted by geysir
Whatever your opinion, he was a lot less gash than Carrick.
Does Carrick play much for Man U?
I thought he was poor myself. Poor shot-taking (which he's supposed to be good at), and not as tidy with his passing as he could have been at times.
Watched Gibson a few times now and I must admit I don't really know what Trap and Fergie see in him. I do think he could be very good when he's older but he's certainly not ready for matches like last week or tonight, from what I've seen. He should really be out on loan.
(Seething he was in the squad for last week and had to be brought on, to be honest, but I don't want to talk about that anymore.)
The RTÉ panel made the point that he's 22 and should be knocking on the door of a regular first team place by now if he's good enough. They also said he shouldn't be in the Ireland squad. I agree to an extent, but I think he needs to work harder. Sometimes his on-pitch attitude reminds me of Paddy McCourt. The likes of O'Shea is only truly cementing a place at Old Trafford now and Fletcher is coming of age at 25. RE the Ireland squad - there are plenty of people who maybe shouldn't be there and I don't think Gibson's the worst! He's certainly got potential.
He had a couple of woeful shots and gave the ball away, but he did make several good interceptions, some good passes and on one occasion carried the ball from deep inside his own half to the opposition's box. Carrick was equally poor, if not worse and he won't be subject to the criticism that Gibson is.
Another thing to consider is that the team around Gibson was very very poor and perhaps Gibson should have shown a bit of leadership as one of the more senior players (Neville and Vidic excluded). There was terrible movement up front and on the wings and Anderson offered nothing from midfield either. I would want to see him playing regularly before I would condemn him as the RTÉ panel did tonight.
well what age did whelan, the two hunts, lawrence,folan and andrews make their ireland debuts lads?? hes only a spring chicken compared to them?
still wish he looked a bit more bothered when playing thou...
potential is there its up to him wether he becomes a darren fletcher or a liam miller(even thou i'm glad to se things are improving at hibs)
Interestingly, in the Guardian's match report, Daniel Taylor, a noted United-watcher, opines that Gibson would be a regular in most other Premiership teams.
He obviously sees something.
I would share the view of Predator except that Carrick was worse.
I don't know if I mentioned that before.
I would only begin to sound like Owls Fan if I went on about the rte panel's ability to be objective. To claim that Trap would ignore his own decades of experience and include Gibson in the squad solely on the word of Ferguson, does take the panel biscuit award of the week.
He just doesn't have it. Wes Brown syndrome. If he didn't play for United, there would be no chance he would get a call up.
You've got no fans.
A fringe player at Man Utd is probably the equivalent of being the first name on the team sheet at most other premiership clubs. The starting players at Man Utd are each worth tens of millions of Euro, so it's much more difficult to be knocking on the door of the first 11 at Old Trafford than anywhere else.
Giles is right about the catch 22 situation. He can't get in the team because there are so many good midfielders at Man Utd, and you need experience and gametime to get good.
Players like Carrick built their careers at Spurs, as did Ronaldo in Portugal and a lot of other famous Man Utd players past and present, built their career and reputation at lesser top flight clubs.
I know Gibson was out on loan at Grimsby, but again that's because of the talent at Utd.
He might have been better off joining a lesser premier league club, getting lots of first team action and building his experience and reputation. Being a fringe player at Utd is a thankless task.
Roy Keane is a good example of how to build a career. Join a lesser premier league team, get tons of experience and then move onto a bigger club. Gibson is never going to play 35-40 games a season at Old Trafford as it stands.
Its really not though. The majority of them end up in Championship and below.
Now thats still a decent level, but no need to hype the lad up.
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it was actually antwerp and wolves he was on loan to emmet
i have the same reservations about him but i really hope that fergie is right and he turns out to be a really good player for both united and ireland
i think john o shea is really great by the way! not that that has anything to do with this discussion tho!
He got first team football at Wolves but wasn't really impressive, but this was mainly due to Mick playing him in a wide position more often than not. He wasn't bad but he didn't really shine either, but he was playing out of position.
I think its important he moves to another premierleague side on loan who will play him consistently in the middle of midfield. Teams like Burnley, Wigan, Hull, Blackburn or Pompet would be a good move for him until the end of the season imo.
I always get the impression that he is playing well within himself. At times last night when he actually went forward at pace, he looked impressive. Unfortunately he is often too content to just sit and play the ball back to his defenders. In other words I wish he would get stuck in a bit more. Still have hopes for him though.
Always look on the bright side of life
Agree with Drummerboy. Gibson is a tidy footballer but he too often seems content to link play rather than look for openings and the more risky/positive pass. It has has been said before but it still rings true; he needs to be more assertive on the ball to move his career forward.
Your case is destroyed once you start quoting "The RTÉ panel". They have an agenda (shock horror). They started off the discussion by saying Andy Reid should be in the team instead of him and were setting up Gibson for a fall. This is their hobby horse and if and when Reid gets back in, there will be another hobby horse.
Gibson is a reasonable player. WOn't set the world on fire but would probably make most Championship and many lower Premiership sides (i.e. he's an Irish international).
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Well Gary Neville said hes def good enough to play for ireland .....Gibson is a reasonable player. WOn't set the world on fire but would probably make most Championship and many lower Premiership sides (i.e. he's an Irish international
Another cringe TO'D interview. Up there with the Van der Sar one around the time of JOSHs bday last year if any of ye remember that one.
I really think there is something about him. If he was given an extended run in the team then I am sure he would prove this. He wasn't great last night but being beside Anderson really didn't help him. Anderson was woeful
One of the 'ugly sisters' reckoned he's good enough for Ireland midfield but will need to work harder to stay in Utd team.
Watched him fairly closely last night, thought he was reasonable and better than most have said. 5.7/10. At least he showed glimpses of urgency, but another "reserved" performance interspersed with good attacking passing and the odd misplaced one.
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