Just joking, referring to BM's remark earlier. I'm "qualified positive" about Gibson.
Just to clear something up, Ireland comes before united for me, always has and always will. My comment could have been made out to make it look the other way but what I meant by it was that if he doesn't get game time at United players who IMO should and could get in the squad ahead of him for Ireland which is better for Ireland.
I've also got nothing against Gibson, I just don't rate him as a player and the fact that he had the chance to go to Sunderland and really push on in his career when he's at the age where he should be getting first team football but didn't go because the money wasn't good enough. He's a big time charlie without ever doing anything to deserve him thinking that. Someone brought up his goals, yeah he's bound to score a few when he's taking 5 shots a game at least...There was one game against West Ham he took two shots from close to the half way line...TWO...when they weren't even on really and he could have easily have picked out a team mate.
Over my head. The second and third paragraphs of that post stood out more to me. Darron does have a large family, right?
Lord help me. You're still making stuff up. I remember that game well and I think it was one of his better ones. He played in a midfield two with Carrick and he actually had to show for the ball alot and get involved. It was the game that he had his highest amount of passes in (67/79) and was one of Utd's better away performances of the season barring Vidic and Evra hitting the self destruct button. He had 4 shots in that game. The 2 furthest out were in the 25-30 yard range. One of these was a freekick. The other 2 were just outside the box and just inside the box (should have scored).Originally Posted by Bayern Munchies
Maybe your memory is bad or are you just seeing what you want to see?
Are you talking about the game in Upton Park last season?
Here's the guardian chalkboard - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards/create - summary of his shots in that game
So one from inside the penalty area, and three from midway between the halfway line and the penalty area, two of which were blocked
Incidentally, his passes in that game were as follows
Seems the majority were short, successful and in the opponents half, or around the centre circle
no, no, no, these were his shots, the first one was his passes.......Incidentally, his passes in that game were as follows
Seems the majority were short, successful and in the opponents half, or around the centre circle
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Sorry for critiscing Darron, I'm sure he will go on and lead us to Euro glory ...Hail King Gibson, savior of Irish football
Well said Tets. Grow up Munchie.
Posters like you will be on here in a few years saying how hopeless Meyler/Clifford/Brady/McCarthy/Hendrick are when they turn out to be excellent footballers but not a cross between Pele and xavi. Go back to playing pro evolution with barcelona where every pass can go to messi s feet cause thats what football really is all about!
I've never seen someone make such a hash of criticising Darron Gibson. I mean it isn't that hard...
Most people are fairly disappointed in his lack of progress and lack of impact in games but Stutts said it well - he's displayed some skills in his game our others midfielders don't have. He plays quick, accurate ball when he's in the mood and can open the game up very well, bringing other players into the game. He's one of the few players in our midfield who first instinct is not to pass the ball backwards. He also does look for the ball, often dropping deep (far more than Whelan or Andrews) to receive it from Given or the centre backs, although I'd agree he could more visible further up the pitch. But that could be equally said of our other centre mid's.
It's not his lack of ability that's the problem, but his lack of consistency. Not so uncommon with young players although I'd agree with anyone who'd suggest Gibson is running out of time. He's needs to pull his finger out, get a move and take responsibility. I'd hope the lack of football at Utd and the prospect of missing out on the Euros will give him the kick he needs.
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
I remember watching United v Schalke in the Champions League thinking why can't Gibson be like this every week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjWuNErpcM8&feature=related
Unfortunately he didn't push on as I would have liked and it wasn't his watershed moment. But something has to give and the point about the Euro's giving him a kick up the arse is a valid point and I hope it materializes.
Also, when it comes down to it I think Trap will take Gibson to the Euro's ahead of McCarthy. Even if it's only championship games Gibson gets under his belt between now and then, he offers Trap something closer to his template than McCarthy does and Trap's selection of Gibson during his tenure reflects as much.
Christ though it's a bit sad to think he's 24. I remember a screamer he scored in an under 19 game for Ireland in Turner's Cross and the way he bossed the game. Stokes and Billy Clarke looked sharp up front and Johnny Hayes looked menacing on the wing that day too.
Do you watch the Premier League? The vast majority of English-trained midfielders do exactly that - it's what they're told to do. It's a serious defect in his game and he badly needs to fix it but he's hardly the only one.
did I say hes the only one? This is a thread about Gibson FFS. He is guilty of avoiding the pass and he does it more than most in the League. No other Man Utd player is guilty of it as much as Gibson - NONE.
Show me where managers have said they tell their midfielders to avoid the ball please?
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
You said you'd never seen a player do it to the extent Gibson does!
Don't get me wrong, he has to fix it to be a quality player, but he's better than most. Manchester United midfielders are better than most.
Posters like me? This is probably the first post you've seen that I've made? Where did I say I expect him to be the next Xavi and for a matter of fact the reason I don't want him to play is so that the likes of McCarthy and Clifford get a chance so stop talking out of your arse like a good lad.
The reason I critsice him is because he deserves it, he's 24 now and should be really progressing as a player but he's not and he won't progress any further the longer he stays at United, and even if he does move he won't progress much further IMO anyway. He's an average player that doesn't really offer anything. Like I said he should have shone in that game against Wigan reserves during the week but he didn't...I know it was his first game in a few months but it was also the young l;ad beside him in the middle only about 5th game in a year too and he easily outshone him.
He goes hiding and missing far too much in games. Glen Whelan and Andrews offer a lot more and they're hardly world beaters either tbh but you don't see me bashing them because they are always gaurnteed to put in a good shift where as you're not even gaurnteed that with Gibson.
What's obvious to me and probably to a lot of other people is that Gibson is a medium fish in a big pond. He's arguably a victim of his own success.
Had he taken a route to professional football similiar to the likes of kinsella and Holland, he could of arguably had a equally effective career.
That being said, he's still young enough to redeem himself. But for God's sake, he needs to bite the bullet and get out of united into a smaller pond.
Posters like you always want the next big thing and then lose the head when they dont turn out to be worldbeaters. Will Clifford break into chelsea s first team squad like Darron did at Utd? Will a top four side come in and buy Mccarthy or Meyler who you seem so sure are better than Darron? I hope all those things do happen cause I think they are excellent footballers but so is Gibson. Gibson turned down far more money at sunderland than he was on at utd cause he thought he could break through at utd and build on his champleague semi final display from last year. It was a bad decision but at least he showed ambition but hopefully now he accepts he needs to get away. Munchie lets have a hug and be friends u played with robbie brady I played with liam Brady we're peas in a pod!
Liam O'Brien! How ya doing oul shtock.
Thing is though been at United or a big club like that doesn't always mean you're a good player, look at liam Miller for example...decent at best(He looked class at Celtic granted) but look where he is now, David Bellion is another example...Paul McShane was also at United. If Clifford doesn't make it at Chelsea it doesn't suddenly mean I won't rate him, I rate players on what I've seen of them.
As for the story about turning down more money at Sunderland to have a go at united, I heard the deal broke down because they couldn't match what he wanted in terms of money? He does need to get away from United and play week in week out, , maybe then he will really come on leaps and bounds but klike I said in MY OPINION, even if he does move he won't improve that much...Of course I hope I'm wrong because that would be great for ireland which is the main thing but I just can't see it happening. He really does need to be playing week in week out at his age though.
As for playing with Robbie brady I never actually played with him, just in the same Kennedy Cup tournamentSo you win this round Liamoo...p.s any chance of Liam brady's autograph
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