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    A move to another club in the PL (Wolves on loan?) would help him a lot. He's neat and tidy but has yet to master how to control and influence the tempo of a game.

    Geysir - Carrick seems to have fallen out of favour with Fergie this season and is not getting that much game time despite Man Utd's injury problems. Rumours doing the rounds that Fergie is willing to offload him to Spurs in exchange for Modric.

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    Lads who hit the ball in the first half, was it him, they reshowed it on sky sports, from the left of the centre circle, curled it through to the edge of the 18 yard box. It was a sublime pass, granted park or whoever was running on didnt quite make it. Shots were very wayward which I felt bad for him as i thought he was trying to shoot and build confidence.

    Overall his passes were a bit rusty, but he was good in tight situations and didnt delay long on the ball, game time would help this. I definitely saw potential in him, its a pity he couldn't be more aggressive when not on the ball. I think thats where fergie needs to start telling him to get stuck in and to look for more passes. I saw potential last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    I definitely saw potential in him, its a pity he couldn't be more aggressive when not on the ball. I think thats where fergie needs to start telling him to get stuck in and to look for more passes. I saw potential last night.
    That's the problem with the lad, Paul. He's had potential for about 3 years now, and it's time to start delivering on it.
    It's a real double edged sword that he's at United. On the one hand, the highest levels of training and conditioning, as well as one of the most successful managers of all time.
    On the other, passage blocked to first team football by some of the best players in the Premiership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Lads who hit the ball in the first half, was it him, they reshowed it on sky sports, from the left of the centre circle, curled it through to the edge of the 18 yard box. It was a sublime pass, granted park or whoever was running on didnt quite make it. Shots were very wayward which I felt bad for him as i thought he was trying to shoot and build confidence.

    Overall his passes were a bit rusty, but he was good in tight situations and didnt delay long on the ball, game time would help this. I definitely saw potential in him, its a pity he couldn't be more aggressive when not on the ball. I think thats where fergie needs to start telling him to get stuck in and to look for more passes. I saw potential last night.
    He is capable of the more incisive pass - for example, he showed that against the Spurs in last season League Cup final. The problem is he doesn't do it often enough and it could be argued that he needs to playing with more regularity to develop the confidence to do it more often. Regarding his international prospects; I think we have a couple of young players coming through that will challenge Gibson not only for a position in the team but also for a position in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    That's the problem with the lad, Paul. He's had potential for about 3 years now, and it's time to start delivering on it.
    Totally agree with this...I support Utd and have followed Darron's progress. He and Jonny Evans came through at the same time ...Evans has come on leaps and bounds, Gibson's progress is non existent ......pity but true

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    rating from goal.com for last night.

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    Darron Gibson - 5 - Struggled to make his mark and his passing went askew too often when put under pressure. Failed to find the target with his sledgehammer of a right boot. Disappointing night was capped off when hooked for Carrick.

    He fared better than Anderson who got a 4 but they seem to be suggesting centre mid was the primary problem last night.

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    i thought gibson struggled last night, and struggled when he came on against france. needs a move.

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    Well all I can say is both Giles and Dunphy couldn't make it at Man Utd so they can't really talk.

    Giles did go on and do well at Leeds.

    It's a tough place to do well at, Man Utd. The recent generation of Utd Players have been world class and delivered some amount of trophies.

    Anyone who thinks an up and coming player even at 22 can knock on the door of the first team is deluding themselves. Maybe when Scholes retires, he might have a better chance.

    I'd say it's tough for Gibson. He can't get a game in the Premier League and then some people, including on here, expect him to turn up in a Champions League match and run the show.

    Give the guy a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    A move to another club in the PL (Wolves on loan?) would help him a lot. He's neat and tidy but has yet to master how to control and influence the tempo of a game.

    Geysir - Carrick seems to have fallen out of favour with Fergie this season and is not getting that much game time despite Man Utd's injury problems. Rumours doing the rounds that Fergie is willing to offload him to Spurs in exchange for Modric.
    Swap him for Modric? Why would Spurs go for that? Ferguson would have to include about twenty million pounds for that deal to go through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Swap him for Modric? Why would Spurs go for that? Ferguson would have to include about twenty million pounds for that deal to go through.
    Plus isnt Modric pretty much out for the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    Well all I can say is both Giles and Dunphy couldn't make it at Man Utd so they can't really talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Swap him for Modric? Why would Spurs go for that? Ferguson would have to include about twenty million pounds for that deal to go through.
    Yeah Man Utd will need to add cash to the deal (probably between 10 and 20 million) but it's not beyond their means!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    Well all I can say is both Giles and Dunphy couldn't make it at Man Utd so they can't really talk.

    Giles did go on and do well at Leeds.
    Does you mean that Giles should only comment on Leeds players, and Dunphy on Millwall, seeing as that is where they both made it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Does you mean that Giles should only comment on Leeds players, and Dunphy on Millwall, seeing as that is where they both made it?
    haha, agree with you.

    but the only thing Dunphy ever "made it" at was being a prize *****.

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    According to Man Utd fans on another forum, he is dominating many reserve games. Ferguson said he has been excellent in training. I really think he needs a run of games, and i doubt Ferguson would have the courage to do that. He was better last night than Carrick is in most games.

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    He needs games under his belt now the same way Fletcher needed them 3-4 yrs ago when he was average at best. I reckon the odd game at Utd and Ireland is better than going out on loan. With CL and carling cup games coming up he should be able to get a game a week. He could do with putting in a couple of good performances here and there.

    On a side note, did anyone notice a severly receding hairline when he was being substituted, Friar Tuck style.
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    Maybe it's the run of games he's needs, I think he could certainly benefit from it. I still worry though, he's never looked too out of place but neither has he really shone in any appearance for either Man Yoo or Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Does you mean that Giles should only comment on Leeds players, and Dunphy on Millwall, seeing as that is where they both made it?
    Think you are trying to put words in my mouth there.

    The point I am making is different to what you think.

    By common consent Giles was a good player in his day, perhaps even a great player.

    But he couldn't hold down a regular place at Man Utd, or wasn't knocking on the door of being a regular first team player.

    That team was of a similar standard to the one today, it went on to win the European Cup, had a few League Championships under it's belt.

    It goes to show how hard it is to break into the first team at Old Trafford given the wealth of talent. Giles couldn't do it, nor Dunphy nor a lot of other talented players who had to go elsewhere. It doesn't mean Gibson is a bad player because he's not a starter at Man Utd. He doesn't have the experience, Scholes, Carrick, and all the other players have the experience and if you were losing a game to someone like Arsenal and you needed an experienced player to come off the bench, and take control of the game, I think most people would prefer it to be Scholes because of his experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet7 View Post
    But he couldn't hold down a regular place at Man Utd, or wasn't knocking on the door of being a regular first team player.
    No intention of being drawn in to a debate with you....you're credibility just decreases with every post you make (if that's still possible).........but just for other posters (in case they don't know), I want to point out that Giles enjoyed a very successful early career with Man Utd, joining at 16, playing regularly with the first team from the age of 19 to 22 and winning a cup medal in 1963 before requesting a transfer to Leeds. During the time that Giles spent with Leeds they were arguably more successful than Man Utd....in no small part due to Giles's contribution.
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    From watching Gibson last night I think he knew that of all the players out there, he was the one most at risk, and rushed himself a few times. He tried to get involved, and his frustration was there to see. The crowd were getting on his back a bit, they know he's got some shot on him, and seem to think he's going to ping one in every time he gets the ball.

    Fergie looked pretty ****ed off after the free kick before he was yanked.

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