The FAI are not fools, John Delaney isn't anyway
a fool no, a devious cnut, yep
The revenue are no longer cutting EL clubs any slack. Bohs came close [a few hours] to a winding up order last year, Shels & Cork got one for having 6 figure debts that were rising, not decreasing.Originally Posted by pete
Other clubs are under investigation and from what I have heard two premier division clubs [non Dublin clubs and obviously not Cork or Derry] are in serious sh1t. Expect at least one more winding up order before the end of the season.
I believe this is the important point & seems that any tax arrears will mean the Revenue come down hard on clubs to force the issue.
As a Cork City fan i am happy that the tax situation has arisen as now we working off a clean slate. I would feel a lot more concerned if i supported a club whose tax matters have not reached the media yet as will always wonder how much is owed...
So the FAI have succeed in their first task of killing Dublin City (lets face it was a matter of time as could not continue as before) now for the next trick...
why dont you just come out and say who it is if ya know? personally i wont be offended or surprised if ya said one of them was us... not that ive heard anything to that tune but its certainly not beyone the realms of possibility...
i might'nt like the fai but i do believe that their finally looking at sorting this league out, and john delaney is certainly no fool, im also starting to wonder if the revenue clamp down is mere coincedence or have they been alerted to the situation by the fai. if clubs are supposed to hand over accounts to the fai under licencing, it would'nt be too hard for them to be forewarded to the tax men for scrutinising. as someone said before, the fai had little power to enforce liscencing whilst control was in the hands of the clubs, and maybe this was their way of weeding out the problem children without having to enforce penalties??
btw i know little about the workings of the revenue so this is just idle wondering on my part...
arent we all just magic little monkeys...
I think your wonderings are way wide of the mark Monkey magic. The revenue have decided to crack down on clubs defaulting on taxes directly as a result of what happened with Shamrock Rovers.
Many of the Rovers fans signalled the revenues new hard-line attitude here on this board when they were going through examinership but they weren't believed. A couple of winding-up orders later and everybody is wondering what happend.
I just wish they would do full investigations of the clubs tax affairs rather than just demanding any outstanding money. I am convinced that some clubs were evading tax and I'd love to see them burn for it. Shels in particular.
Cogito ergo Bohs
Ok this isnt going to be a popular stance, but I honestly reckon that getting into bed with the FAI is the only way that an Irish League will be competitive in the future. I think in doing so the league will be altered to an extent that in ten years we wont recognise it in ten years but i believe it can be completely turned around.
In order to achieve this ALL the recommendations need to be followed, thus spelling the end of many of the clubs in the league as we know it, more than likely including my own. To me we have two choices, continue ****ing about as we are and eventually going back to all clubs being semi pro or accepting that sport is a business and getting into bed with the FAI and building a product which we can eventually flog to Sky as a summer filler.
This Sky project is an All ireland concept and wont have more than 12 teams and will have no relegation for the first handful of seasons. It would see Dublin teams cut to 2 / 3 and 4 teams max from NI including a Derry team.
We'll probably never get agreement for it but that is the option if you want a succesful league that can attract investment, infrastructure and quality players. As the song goes, Rip it up and Start Again.
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